Matriarchal fantasy world idea

[Jabrosky]

When I was younger, I used to believe that women were the statistically smarter or at least more rational sex while men were more emotional and irrational. Part of the reason why is that I thought that women having stronger minds would compensate for their physically weaker bodies. Another reason is that I am a guy with Asperger's Syndrome, making me cognitively very masculine, and I tend to be impulsive and easily angered (when I was a kid I would throw lots of tantrums). To be sure, I didn't believe that women were morally superior to men, but I did think that aggressive and competitive women tended to be more subtle and calculating while similarly aggressive men were more volatile and upfront.

I know now that my belief in women's greater mental strength and rationality isn't necessarily true for our world, but I would still like to apply it for fantasy worldbuilding. In the majority of my world's cultures, women are more likely to have intellectually demanding roles such as magicians, scholars, and politicians whereas men tend to be the warriors and manual laborers. This would have the effect of the world's cultures being matriarchal since women are the sex trusted with political leadership.

I don't know what I should ask in this OP, I simply wanted to share a brain fart.

[Steerpike]

The one question I'd ask initially is how the status quo is maintained. If the force of arms (the warriors; military etc) are the province of men, what prevents such men, whether trusted or not, from taking and maintaining political power by force?

[Jabrosky]

The one question I'd ask initially is how the status quo is maintained. If the force of arms (the warriors; military etc) are the province of men, what prevents such men, whether trusted or not, from taking and maintaining political power by force?

I would think social conventions could be strong enough to prevent that. Besides, women could always use magic against wannabe male usurpers.

Alternatively, it could depend on exactly what is valued in a particular culture. Perhaps warlike tribal cultures would give greater esteem to male strength whereas more advanced, socially complex civilizations would favor female leaders to manage everything.

[grahamguitarman]

The pre Christian Britons were originally a matriarchal friendly culture, which is why Boudicca was so easily accepted as a war leader. to them it was perfectly normal for a woman to lead men into battle.

Edit: I should point out however that a matriarchal society did not mean that women ruled over men, simply that women had equal rights and powers to men. unlike a patriarchal society where men had absolute power over everything and women were considered inconsequential.

[Queshire]

I'm gonna have to disagree with you Graham, to me at least a martriarchal culture would be as women focused as a partriarchal culutre is man based, while I don't know the term of the top of my head, I'm pretty sure there's a different term for a balance of power.

Anyways, going back to the original post, you can do a society like that but I suggest being very, very careful. Equality of the sexes is a BIG issue, and even if in your society women have the "better" positions, there are going to be people pissed off about it.

I suggest spending a lot of time just considering the full implications of your proposed society. Just what type of society would result from that sort of cultural divide?

[Caged Maiden]

eew this could get ugly in a hurry, and I'm a pretty open-minded female. I read a story similar to this idea, but in that world, the "people" were like bug-type things, and the females were larger than the males..... That sort of thing makes it an easier concept to accept for people. I do love your creativity, and I hope you do work this out, but Queshire is right, it's probably going to upset people if you can't explain WHY. Actually I sort of disagree with one point, though. I think in tribal, clannish society, you might be MORE likely to see this sort of thing. Superstitious people might be more inclined to lean on an older woman (because women live longer than men) for magical, spiritual, or social advice. It's almost a question of cultural anthropology at that point, and perhaps reading a little about matriarchal societies would help you understand what exactly made it such and how it works.

That being said, if it were me (and I do write a sort of idealized world where certain men and women have rights and others do not) I might think of it more like a wolf pack. There are two people at the top, a man and woman, and the woman has her job and the male his. All the other male and female wolves or people under the top ones are just expected to do their jobs and stay in line.

I wrote about a clannish society in one of my stories, and the main woman character is a seer and gifted with special powers. These special women can stop men from fighting in the streets with a command, and all bow to their will..... but not just because they're female, but because they're special. I hope that sort of helps you narrow down the Why of this issue.

[Caged Maiden]

Actually one of the big problems just occurred to me. A note about women. Being one, there are certain things I must admit. My husband and indeed most men are bigger and stronger than I am. Also, looking at other types of animals, some parallels can be drawn to early humans. Elephants are matriarchal, herds being comprised of cows and calves, while small groups of bachelors or single bulls are common. See the females don't need the males. They don't need them for protection or to find food or to do anything other than reproduce.

Humans have more needs than most animals, especially where babies are concerned. I have borne four children between the ages of 25 and 31. That means my oldest is almost 6 and my youngest is 6 months old. I have essentially been carrying someone in my arms for the last six years. How can women compete with men when we carry our larvae around for more than a year, nursing them, cleaning them, and practically slaves to their needs?

When women get together, they can support each other, a village can raise everyone's children, but a village needs men and women, to balance the workload..... That being said, however, men don't have to see women as weak or useless. Women are well-suited for certain tasks: healing, magic, future-telling, spiritual guidance, story-telling, teaching, you could pick just about anything except power-lifting, and it could be a skill that woman (as well as men) possess which makes them special. Certain Germanic people had a "magic" they practiced, but only women were allowed to practice, because it was thought unmanly to dabble in magic. You could always use some theory like that to even the playing field.

[grahamguitarman]

I'm gonna have to disagree with you Graham, to me at least a martriarchal culture would be as women focused as a partriarchal culutre is man based, while I don't know the term of the top of my head, I'm pretty sure there's a different term for a balance of power.

Anyways, going back to the original post, you can do a society like that but I suggest being very, very careful. Equality of the sexes is a BIG issue, and even if in your society women have the "better" positions, there are going to be people pissed off about it.

I suggest spending a lot of time just considering the full implications of your proposed society. Just what type of society would result from that sort of cultural divide?

What I meant was that in real world terms, Matriarchal societies didn't actually put all the power into the hands of women, only shared it. Women were allowed to rule, but at the same time men weren't stripped of the power to rule. They were referred to as matriarchal cultures because women had the ability to rule over men, even if that didn't always happen. In a fantasy culture of course you could have a complete role reversal, but in the real world that has never happened, and most likely never will.

[grahamguitarman]

Forgot to mention that when I was younger I also thought that women were better suited to leadership than men. But then Margaret Thatcher was elected prime minister, and I realised that women could be just as bad as men if not worse. By the time she was ousted from power, the British public hated her for her arrogance and indifference to the ordinary man in the street. Had her own party not turned against her she would have been thrown out at the next elections anyway.

As much as I respect women and believe they should be treated as equals in everything, I no longer believe a woman can do a better job of running the country than a man could.

[kadenaz]

This idea thrills me, go for it