Elves and Lizardmen

[King Raven Stark]

Can you guys give me different types of elves because the only types I know are Light, Dark, and Wood elves, and as far as Lizardmen go I will need your entire knowledge on that matter.

Thank You

[Jabrosky]

Ugh, I really hate elves. Lizardmen, as larger reptiles, are awesome though. My favorite lizardmen are the Mesoamerican-inspired ones from the Warhammer universe:

[shangrila]

If you're after traditional elves, that's pretty much all there is. Warcraft has blood elves, but they're just high (light) elves. Aside from that, yeah, it's only light, dark and wood elves. Although there's nothing stopping you from doing, say, water elves.

Lizardmen come up a fair bit. There's a few in ancient mythology (naga and gorgons come to mind), though typically they look like dragon-esque humanoids.

[Steerpike]

Just make up whatever you want about elves and lizardmen.

[Justme]

Dude don't try to name tribes of elves. Use the regions they are living and hunting at. Forest, Mountain, Valley, Plains, ect. Tribal names can be made up anywhere, but not where their homeland is. When I think of Elves, I envision The American Indians before Columbus invaded. They lived a tribal lifestyle and hunted for food, just as the Elves are supposed to. Many times I wish I could return the world to such a time and block The West from ever setting foot on North America. We haven't exactly made a good name for ourselves.

[Steerpike]

The North American Indians weren't exactly as idyllic as people make them out to be. They had their own rivalries, war, politics, and intrigues among tribes. Part of the reason some of the first Europeans received some of the help they did was because Indian tribes were hoping to leverage a friendship with the newcomers against other tribes. The same sort of "internal" warfare and intrigue was advantageous to the Spanish elsewhere in the New World. Columbus himself never set foot on any land that is now part of the 50 states of the U.S., as far as I know.

If you want to read an excellent article dealing with Tisquantum (Squanto) and the Europeans in what is now New England, check this out: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...y/squanto.html

[JBryden88]

Regarding elves. If you don't need them, don't use them. Or...
Elf - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Look up your elven history. Before they were hippies with bows, elves are fundamentally awesome.

When I was 15 and I tried high fantasy I tried to be different with my elves. I had the "royal elves," which were your typical high elf in that they were nobility, snobby, and so on. But they also killed anyone who tried to enter their cities without being elven themselves. I had "woodland elves," that performed animal and sometimes even human sacrifice to appease the gods of balance, and their druids were loosely based off of celtic druids. I also had "death elves," a drow and vampire hybrid that attacked at night, and could only be slain by fire.

Try your own take on them.

As for Lizardmen...

My favorite lizardmen are the Iksar from the MMORPG Everquest and Everquest 2. They were based off the Romans, yet they were tribal, yet they were organized, and "evil" yet had plenty of personality. One of the few things that kept me in that game for the time I played it was the fact that the Iksar, while being "evil," had rich history. And roleplaying one... being a proud member of a race that's now at war with itself, its former slaves, all while being oppressed by the human kings and their (the iksar's own) evil emperor? Pure gold.

Your lizardmen can be tribal, they can be civilized, bad, good, or neutral. When I was still fascinated by high fantasy, my own lizardmen appeared evil in the struggle against dragonmen, but turned out to be the good guys by the end.

[Aravelle]

You may actually want to look into cryptozoology and reports of "real life" lizardmen. Even look into Spiderman- there's a lizard man villian in there, see if any of his traits are worth analyzing.

[Aravelle]

Also, it wouldn't hurt if you made the lizard men cold blooded and/or amphibious. I don't know what kind of story you're writing..but don't put them in a sewer. :/

[Justme]

The North American Indians weren't exactly as idyllic as people make them out to be. They had their own rivalries, war, politics, and intrigues among tribes. Part of the reason some of the first Europeans received some of the help they did was because Indian tribes were hoping to leverage a friendship with the newcomers against other tribes. The same sort of "internal" warfare and intrigue was advantageous to the Spanish elsewhere in the New World. Columbus himself never set foot on any land that is now part of the 50 states of the U.S., as far as I know.

If you want to read an excellent article dealing with Tisquantum (Squanto) and the Europeans in what is now New England, check this out: Native Intelligence | History & Archaeology | Smithsonian Magazine

Thank you my friend. I do love history and have heard the tail before. I didn't mean to make to sound, like I was romanticizing anything. I know, very well that tribes raided other tribes and just like any other human, the Indians were political and manipulative.

The reason I brought up the Europeans, was because they introduced items that were such a leap in technology for the Indians, that it nearly made their defenses obsolete. What good was wood and stone against armored men, wielding metal and riding horses. To add to that the diseases that The West brought over decimated hundreds, if not thousands of Indians.

Have you ever wondered what the world would look like if the Europeans hadn't had that edge? Would the US be here and would South America have developed as it had, if the Incas were still in power? I have heard rumors about The Incas doing some sorts of surgeries. If that was the case and Christianity had not been introduced to squash such things, what would be the level of medicine in today's world?

You know, It sounds like that tracing the history of what might have been, might just make a good fantasy book.