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    Quote Originally Posted by Graylorne View Post
    But what would they do with their intelligence without arms? Thinkers, philosophers?
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    Why, star in a children's animated franchise of course!

    But seriously, I think if they are going to be able to comprehend the ideas of debt and repayment, as seems to be necessary, then they need to be pretty much human in intellect. They don't need to be able to talk to humans, so long as everyone understands that they are in fact on their intellectual level.

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    Unicorns could be somewhat intelligent, but in a different way to humans. Perhaps the unicorns are simple creatures, but not necessarily dumb. They might communicate in mental 'images' and feelings, not words, as Graylorne mentioned above. I use thought-images in my stories quite often. Not as easy to describe as words, of course, but quite fun.

    As for level of intelligence, that is quite a lengthy conversation in itself. They probably don't need to be philosophers or thinkers or inventors. They may live simply and understand the world in simple terms, but they may also be able to form emotional attachments to each other and understand returning a favour, or understand some sense of honor.

    Or, they may just return the favour because it's 'how it's done'. There is no real feeling of obligation in the way humans understand it, but in a way their species does. They may not even specifically feel 'gratitude'. I picture aloof creatures with a higher level of intelligence (including emotional) than most animals, but with an intelligence that need only match their world.
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    male is a stallion
    female - mare
    child - foal
    it is fantasy they can be anything you want

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    I'm having major issues with the unicorns' method of mental communication. I can't decide whether mental images/projection of memories or projection of emotions, or a combination of the two, would be better for the story. Mental images would be hard, especially given the biological differences between a horse (or horse-like creature) and a human -- horses see colors differently than we do, for one thing, and I have NO idea how to get that across in writing. Emotions is by far the easier route to take, but it might not be enough for a certain scene later on in the novel.

    Some context, for sake of clarity:

    Scene 1 - A unicorn colt falls down a well, and Ariel, the virginal teenage heroine, goes down after it. She tries to calm the colt, and it bombards her mind with emotions and/or images in its panic. Ariel helps get the colt out of the well, it mother heals its injury, and everything's good. Both unicorns and MCs go on their merry way.

    Scene 2 - Much later, Dom, a middle-aged bachelor protagonist, is separated from the rest of the MCs, and comes across an adult unicorn (either the mother or father of the aforementioned colt) stuck in a snare. Dom goes to free the unicorn, and the unicorn communicates mentally with him, showing that it remembers the colt being freed from the well, and that Dom was there when that happened. Dom tries to communicate back, focusing on the other MCs and his desire to be reunited with them. The unicorn then decides to help Dom, letting him ride on its back while they look for the other MCs.

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    Not too long after the MCs are reunited, chaos ensues when the antagonists find the MCs. Dom is gravely injured, and after some urgent pleading from other characters and being reminded that Dom saved the unicorn from a snare, the unicorn uses its horn to heal Dom's injury, saving his life.
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    I'd say the highly intelegant animal version would work better, just because if you make it clear its intelegant without being human, it can still be just as intelegant as a human, just think in a different way - it'd still come off as an animal since it woudn;t act human regarldess of how smart it was (we judge animals on how human they act, not how intelegant)

    Though less intelegant than that works too. many creatures will repay debts and the like without being extremly intelegant, simply because they recognize the thing they owe the debt to as something that aided them and thus advantageous for it to continue to exist so long as it didn't threaten the creature itself (healing/freeing something that helped you and you don;t see as food is actually a survival tactic, so I can see pretty much any non-suicidal beast doing so). and even without full intelect, its still a pretty romantic and dramatic notion (think androwhatsisface and the lion...)

    The only one I can't really see working is the "its a human that looks like a horse..." as thats just dull and boring and often feels like its a unicorn just to name drop a fantasy creature...
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    I dream things that never were and ask why not?

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    I think an intelligent animal is about right, but even if they were highly intelligent, say the same intellect as the humans, there would be much they could do via magic. If they are capable of communication through Telepathy/Empathy, it wouldn't be that far of a stretch to other mental disciplines like Clairvoyance, Clairaudience,Telekinesis etc. The thing i've often wondered about Telepathy is the communication itself; how would an experienced telepath communicate with someone with no training at all? Just force their way in? How would that work with humans without training, but with the mental control enough to keep them out? Would a supposedly "good" creature literally batter through someone's mental defenses to speak to them if it wasn't of dire importance?

    I think perhaps it could be good to give them the ability of empathy as well, so they can "exude" feelings of calm so they can ease their way through any mental blockages. Just my thoughts.

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    I like the idea of empathy and the like, but I think telekinesis is a bit of a stretch -- if the unicorns are telekinetic, then the mother could have easily lifted the colt out of the well by herself, thus negating any need for the human and Fae protagonists to step in. Ditto with the other rescue later in the story.

    In the case of the injured colt, it's a very young telepath/empath communicating with a clueless human. The colt is injured and frightened, so it would just be battering the girl's mind with the basic idea of "help me, it hurts!" Once the protagonists learn that unicorns are telepathic/empathic, the one who meets another unicorn in trouble later on would anticipate that and make an attempt to communicate to it in the same way.
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    I had that thought also after the fact, and it does indeed seem silly. I remember having unicorns like that in a game is all.

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    I wouldn't call it silly, just superfluous in this case. There are telekinetic unicorns elsewhere, like in My Little Pony.
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    My unicorns are not geniuses, they learn from their elders and from life experience. They live a long life, a young unicorn is as stupid as a young human.

    My unicorns have the ability to heal injuries, and go in depth on why they prefer virgins. Basically, They are nauseated around anyone that is not pure, the feeling starts at about 15 feet from the unicorn, and is multiplied by each unpure person. If they were to go into a town, they would surely die.
    They can heal someone that is not pure, but the nausea will be overwhealming.

    They are rarely seen, because the more corrupted the person, the less likely their mind will see the ultimate goodness that is a unicorn, plus they know how to hide in their enviroment, like camoflauge.

    My Unicorns can't speak, they have vocal chords equal to a horse, but they have touch telepathy. They can communicate endlessly with anyone touching them. The communication is not one on one, so if more then one person is touching the unicorn, it can get confusing.
    The horn is magical, it can harm as easily as it can heal. It is also very valuble if cut from a unicorn. The horn can penetrate full armor as if it were tin foil.

    My unicorns prefer to harm life only as a last resort, even evil lives. Killing brings depression. Good and evil is a balance that should be carefully maintained.

    Basically, a wise tree hugger goodie-goodie, that also loves harmless pranks.

    One area I did not go into was unicorn breeding and unpure unicorns. I guess the good of the unicorn is not soiled by procreation, but never went into it.
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