Solusandra
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There's also the issue that Cleopatra isn't African, but Greek. The Ptolemy bloodline took over Egypt from a previous invasion and when they weren't marrying their siblings, they were marrying other greek nobility.example: 'Cleopatra should be played by a black actor – but not just for historical accuracy'
This line quote. "The casting should be informed by the racial and social dynamics of today." It's a brave new world of woke power fantasy. I can understand historical accuracy but this come on.....
False dichotemy, but ok. 'Real woman' proclamations do exist, and they differ from conservative to feminist.A ‘real’ women refers to an actual, living, breathing person. Therefor it cannot apply to fake women as they don’t exist. But yes, it does apply to men. Examples: real men don’t cry; if you care about your woman’s feelings you’re ‘whipped’;
Also, cyring and being sensitive is a serious issue. Just watch most women. Cry in front of them once or twice after extreme experiences because you feel 'safe' with them, it may strengthen their empathy for you, but cry with ANY regularity, and watch that empathy turn to disgust and spite. Same with sensitive emotions. Men tell each other that to protect themselves. Women tell men that because despite what propaganda you hear, women hate weak men.
Hmm. I'll have to go watch that then.To give an example of what I would arguably call a ‘female power fantasy ‘, that I enjoyed, thought was done well, didn’t see her as a ‘man with boobs’, and didn’t have any of ‘I’m just a girl in a man’s world, but I can do it too’ (looking at you Captain Marvel), is Jessica Jones on Netflix.
thank you.But gender equality does not mean gender sameness. We are different (technically males are mutant females). Gender equality means valuing those differences and recognizing that we all have inherent rights.
Fourth, what is the male power fantasy? Do I know?
Fifth, what is the female power fantasy? I don't know.
There is. And it's fairly well defined.What IS even a power fantasy?
Is there such a thing as a universal male/female power fantasy?
I don't think so.
Svrtnsse is correct, it's not connan the barbarian or other over-muscled Schwarzenegger or Dwayne Rock Johnson films, that's just one expression of hundreds.
The Male Power Fantasy is about overcoming adversity and being the hero. The how is immaterial. The strong man. The trickster. The sage. A thousand variations between the three. The male power fantasy is that he saves the day.
The female power fantasy is different. Both seek adulation form society, but the female power fantasy doesn't care about being a hero. That's sometimes an element, but not even the majority. It's to be able to do whatever you will, and have those important to you reward you for it. saintly or malicious.
And Annoyingkid , girls don't consider "chick flick" to be derogatory unless they're professed feminists. And even then, twilight and The Other WOman which are total chick flicks are massively popular among feminists. And male feminists. And women in general. So unless you're limiting your view of worth to male approval...
Except that we DO sexualize sexual and physical assault. Fuck, TheMarySue, an absolutely dripping feminist propaganda rag published articles about how women are the overwhelming audience of rape porn. And I've talked before about the Harlequin romances already.I mean what woman wouldn't want sexual assault or physical assault to no longer be a concern.
Trust me, that's not the part they're threatened by. It's actually a fetish.The ability to be highly competent without threatening dude's masculinity.
It's about agency, I can wholly agree with that... Though, before you get too far into the objectification idea, you should really check out the romance section. 95% written by women, 100% sexually objectifying. Men, women, sheep, lamps; ALL are sexually objectified! The massive majority of female written pieces, power trips and otherwise would not pass the Bechdel test.I think we can also agree, given the statements in this thread, that a woman's basic "power fantasy" is being recognized as a whole person with agency and not a sexy lamp. Women are also people, individuals with their own desires and hopes and dreams. Women are not a monolith.
The Sage and the Trickster. Two common expressions of the power fantasy that typically are not only not strong, but deliberately portrayed as weak. And yet, they're still power fantasy heroes.In fantasy, how can a weak character be smart, if it's not smart to be weak.
There...is though?It feels wrong to be talking about "female power fantasy" as if there was only one such fantasy, shared by all females.
There has been, and it's not recent. It's just recently taken the front seat in hollywood.Historically, one could make the case that there never has been a female power fantasy, at least not one culture-wide and openly expressed. It's sort of a modern invention. And if it is an invention, I'd very much like to see something like "top twenty female power fantasies" or the like. That is, plenty of different ideas about what constitutes power among women. Let a thousand flowers bloom.
I'm going to go with some other factor. The situation was even worse in mens favor when we were hunter gathers. Agriculture is simply the period when we started writing about it.I am not sure it matters that agriculture did this, or some other factor did.
No, that is far too narrow, but I've already pontificated.Yeah, the "Power Fantasy" usually plays out like a 90s Schwarzenegger action flick, with the tough guy being awesome, shooting up the bad guys, capping the villain with some badass line, and getting the girl. It's not supposed to be deep, or make a statement, just tick off all those "masculine" impulses and suppressed inner desires.
Just the notion behind it is going to tick people off (is this really what guys feel like they want? Which guys?). It's not surprising to me that looking at a "Female Power Fantasy" is going to annoy people. If you just swap the genders and portray the "super-strong woman" with the badass lines, there's a real question if that would be expected to hit the deep emotional impulses of what many woman want, and if you try to speculate about what would, that's extremely shaky territory.
And just flipping the characters gender does not make it a FPF. Never has.
That's probably the root of what's causing this psychological dissonance, that people think it is.