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Balinger, Birlinn and oceanic galleys

Discussion in 'Research' started by Aldarion, Jul 21, 2019.

  1. Aldarion

    Aldarion Sage

    In my setting, all significant powers have rather significant coastline. However, there are no closed seas such as Mediterranean (there are some similar to Caspian sea, but none that would be particularly relevant). So this means that while my "protagonist" state is based on Byzantine Empire, it is rather unlikely that they will have developed anything like Byzantine dromond.

    When I went to research what ships were used on Atlantic coasts, I found these:
    Balinger - Wikipedia
    Birlinn - Wikipedia
    They appear to be well-suited for what I need. I also know that Britons used sailed warships to combat Caesar's navy - Celts were as technologically advanced as Romans - but these were doomed by the typical vulnerability of sailed ships:
    Avebury Henge 1

    So does anyone know where to find more details? As well as something on oceanic galleys used in Indian ocean, if there were any?
  2. CupofJoe

    CupofJoe Myth Weaver

    You may find something of interest looking at the Ottoman Navy in the Indian Ocean. The Ottomans fought [several?] wars with the Portuguese for control of the trade routes to India.
    The Chinese were great mariners too.
    I didn't know that about the Celts having a navy, but as they were traders it stands to reason that they were proficient seafarers and I guess that comes along with shipboard conflict, either for self-defence or piracy.
  3. Aldarion

    Aldarion Sage

    CupofJoeCupofJoe But these would have likely been done by ships designed for Mediterranean or Black Sea. I know that Roman ships ventured out into Atlantic despite not really being suited for it. But what I am looking for here are galleys specifically designed for oceanic conditions - e.g. Viking longships and similar.
  4. skip.knox

    skip.knox toujours gai, archie Moderator

    Medieval Maritime History by Charles Stanton. Dull book with tons of detail. There were galleys that fought in the north.
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  5. Aldarion

    Aldarion Sage


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