Discussion in 'Film & Television' started by Anders Ã„mting, Oct 30, 2012.
If he cuts it, you just flog him to death with the pieces.
Now it's just turning into a dodgy 50 Shades of Sith mash up. I will never get the image of Mickey Mouse whipping Darth Sideous with two ends of a singed rope, as the Sith Lord cries, "Thank you sir! May I have another?", out of my head. Things like that, once imagined, can never be truly forgotten.
And for that....I blame you
Old thread...but I recall when I first heard this news, how excited I was that Star Wars might get new life. But...man.... I never want to see star wars again after this disaster. And I am just very against Disney at this point in my life. I wish they did not own all the franchises and there was more of a different perspective producing some of the big properties. Truth is, I see just about every movie that comes out (I have a Regal rewards membership), but movies just suck today. I keep hoping....but I think a new generation, separate from these large companies need to come breath new life into the industry. I'd be okay if we stopped doing super heroes and reboots of old franchises for a while.
Maybe they could tap some of us
Also, I kind of wish we could have seen Lucas's vision reach completion before Disney took it. While I thought Lucas was not a great director (too many cringe worthy lines), I never thought I would miss him. I had always heard it would be 9 movies he had in mind and I know these last three were not what he had thought up.
(Sorry, I see these old threads in the guests and robots feed. Some look good, sorry I missed them.)
In my experience reboots often miss the mark because they don't seem to understand what made the original work. Or, in writer terms, they know which tropes to use, but not why and turn them into clichés instead.
A clear example for me was The Adams Family. The original was amazing, but the reboot sucked. Why? Well, in the original we have this family who thinks they're completely normal and go about their lives as if they are, when in fact they're anything but. This contrast is what makes it funny. In the reboot they do all the same kinds of things, but instead of believing they're completely normal, they know they are not and go out of their way to be not normal. The jokes are the same, the tropes are the same, but it just falls flat.
Same with Star Wars. The original trilogy didn't work because we wanted to see people do cool things with the Force. It worked because we saw characters struggle, and learn, and become better people, while fighting for an ideal. The new movie mainly skipped over those parts and just went with "let's do cool stuff with the Force".
I liken it to the energy behind the story that launched it was because someone was inspired and had something to say. The follow ups ate more from a place of what other stuff can happen given the existing world building, but is lacking heart that inspired it. And of course it starts to get pressure from outside forces and drift.
I think much of the problem with movies is that the script writers don't have any imagination. Even when they have a successful book, they still feel the need to embellish it with cheap theatrics since they don't seem to think the stories are good enough to entertain the audience. This is in spite of the fact the book was already a success before anyone wanted to make a movie from it.
The fact we get so many 'reboots' is because they don't have any ideas, but I still kind of like the fact disney has made a lot more movies. Even if they aren't as good as the original trilogy, at the pace it took Lucas to make them I'd probably die of old age (or he might) before he finished them all. Since they are movies, I come at them with very low expectations, and as long as I have fun watching them, they are good enough for me. I keep higher standards for my books that I read since they are usually a far greater time investment.
This post was made a decade ago. Ten years man! That settles it: CupofJoe is a modern day Nostradamus.
Nostradamus on star wars:
The wretched, unfortunate Republic will again be ruined by a new authority
The nautical Frog in its bosom be agreement
That which neither weapon nor flame could accomplish will be achieved by a sweet speaking tongue in council
Those most lettered in the celestial facts…punished by Edict, hunted, like criminals, and put to death wherever they will be found.
A man will be charged with the destruction of temples and sects, altered by fantasy…ears filled with ornate speeches
Sham liberty will be proclaimed everywhere
The leader flees, hidden in the swampy marshes
The unhappy abandoned one will die of grief
Sooner and later you will see great changes made, dreadful horrors and vengeances. For as the Moon is thus led by its angel the heavens draw near to the Balance
Before the conflict the great wall will fall
The chief adversary will obtain the victory: The rear guard will make a defense, the faltering ones dead in the white territory.
Through great dangers the captive escaped. In a short time great his fortune changed. In the palace the people are trapped
The blond one will come to compromise the fork-nosed one through the duel
Before the Empire changes a very wonderful event will take place.
The prince who has little pity of mercy will come through death to change…..After his death one will see a great marvel.
Fans will then love and then hate and then love the creator, and despise the mouse
That last line though..
Well...I had to help him. He was one line short.
It's a brilliant ending.