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Favorite Plotting/Structure Methods

Discussion in 'Writing Discussions' started by Aryth, Mar 23, 2017.

  1. Aryth

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    Hello! I'm definitely a planner (not a pantster) and am researching different ways of plotting and structuring novels. What works best for all of you, or what have you tried in the past that you didn't like/it didn't work for you? So far I'm interested in the snowflake and 7-Point Structure methods, but they both seem pretty different from one another.
     
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    IMO, take your pick. Study them enough and they all basically become the same thing. Plot is like a nebula, it looks different from lots of perspectives, but in the end... it's still the same nebula. That said, I don't full fledge plot (did that in screenwriting) and it becomes just sort of engrained. I watched a real complex explanation for "complex" plots a while back (don't recall his name for it) and I was like, Dude, you're just weaving modern 3-act structure from a different approach/name system.

    But! I am also a big believer in coming at the same target from multiple directions, sometimes that's necessary to make the bulb light up. But! Modern 3-act can and will handle anything you've got if you delve into its finer intricasies.
     
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  4. Chessie

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    I agree with Des that they are basically the same thing. I have made my own plotting/outlining system by using the outline methods from the following authors:

    -Chris Fox S.A.L.E.S (he has a youtube channel an also writes non-fiction publishing information for Indies)
    -Libbie Hawker's Take Off Your Pants
    -Romancing The Beat by Gwen Hayes

    ...and now adding in a few tidbits from Story Grid by Shawn Coyne. I'm always looking to improve my methods! So there are four to start with. :)
     
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    I'm always reading different takes even when I realize it's just a different view of the same thing, because you never know when you'll see something that will make another something click a little differently, LOL.

    My pants vary from dangling at the knees to tripping me at the ankles, but they never come off... heh heh.

     
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  6. Penpilot

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    Yeah, I agrree, they're all just different ways to look at the same thing. I came across this chart that lines everything up next to one another, and I think it's beautiful.

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  7. Aryth

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    Penpilot, I love the visual image! How cool! I find visuals very helpful when I'm planning something. I'm definitely saving this one to the desktop...
     
  8. Aryth

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    Thank you all for the awesome feedback and resources! I hadn't realized that all of the different methods were basically doing the same thing in different ways, so that insight was helpful as well. I will check out the articles/videos you guys recommended.
    Thanks! :)
     
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    Oscars 2017 Winner and Nominees Basic Deconstructions

    KalBashir.com - YouTube
     
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  10. Aryth

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    Wow, Helen, cool resource! Thanks for sharing! It looks like different movie structures are being broken down?
     
  11. Russ

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    I quite like the approach laid out in the book Story Engineering.
     
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