• Welcome to the Fantasy Writing Forums. Register Now to join us!

Lame concultions or defeat?

Ovius

Minstrel
Is it lame idea that protagast can simply retreat to safety just because the golems are only guarding there territory not actually a true threat so the whole scence was unnecessary ( it would be some eye opening realisation to the book but I think it as so might be a little to much after he already starting is enlightenment with the demon).
 

pmmg

Myth Weaver
RPG players will totally get that some types of guards have limitations.

It might be useful to show this upfront, as it may return someplace later in the story. But this more about execution than a check box. It could be lame in some circumstances and not in others. Given your questions, I will assume you are a beginner writer. I advise looked at the rules in my siggy.

Write...write to the end, and dont seek feedback till is finished. You will get better. You will have stuff for people to look at, and you be on the way to sharpening your own editors knife.
 

Ovius

Minstrel
Definitely a beginner, I have been told to do that but it also is hard for me not to get hooked on the kinks as I go because I don't want to confuse myself with problems later on to so I wrote it all out in bullet points
 

ThinkerX

Myth Weaver
If you think of golems as robots programmed to secure a given area, then yes, retreating to safety is an option.
 

Ovius

Minstrel
If you think of golems as robots programmed to secure a given area, then yes, retreating to safety is an option.
I went with a the Jewish way of changing the word truth symbol to death though it makes them really simple to kill but I do need to drag out the way they find out which also might feel lame
 

ThinkerX

Myth Weaver
I went with a the Jewish way of changing the word truth symbol to death though it makes them really simple to kill but I do need to drag out the way they find out which also might feel lame
The symbol does not have to be visible to your character. It could be beneath armor or a helmet.
 

Diana Silver

Troubadour
I think the difference between lame and awesome fully depends on what you make your readers expect. If your readers know the challenge is to get out of the golemns' territory before they get killed, then that's what we'll be rooting for. We'll be invested in their attempt to reach safety and we'll celebrate when they reach it.

On the flip side, if you make us expect an inescapable fight to the death - but then suddenly it turns out that the characters can actually just walk away, then we'll be sorely disappointed in that turn of the plot.

So you can write any scene, any plot outcome. The trick is to make the reader look forward to the outcome you're going to give them.
 

Ovius

Minstrel
I think the difference between lame and awesome fully depends on what you make your readers expect. If your readers know the challenge is to get out of the golemns' territory before they get killed, then that's what we'll be rooting for. We'll be invested in their attempt to reach safety and we'll celebrate when they reach it.

On the flip side, if you make us expect an inescapable fight to the death - but then suddenly it turns out that the characters can actually just walk away, then we'll be sorely disappointed in that turn of the plot.

So you can write any scene, any plot outcome. The trick is to make the reader look forward to the outcome you're going to give them.
I hope writing the Jewish interpretation does enough to get that with the simple changing of the rune symbol and it isn't a dungeon crawl so there is no master boss just a simple protection mechanism to guard a relic without putting the reader off.
 

JBCrowson

Inkling
Is it lame idea that protagast can simply retreat to safety just because the golems are only guarding there territory not actually a true threat so the whole scence was unnecessary ( it would be some eye opening realisation to the book but I think it as so might be a little to much after he already starting is enlightenment with the demon).
It's not a lame idea at all in my view. The MC could enter the area run into the golem, see some of what they're capable of and then retreat to figure out how to get past / destroy them, come back and put their plan into action. You could have an unexpected snag mean it doesn't go as smoothly as they expect / give them a loss of some sort to work through. Lots of ways that idea could be very interesting. As others have said, it will work if you write in a way that works. (I appreciate that's similar to answering "how do I lead a good life?" with "be good and live.")
 

Ovius

Minstrel
It's not a lame idea at all in my view. The MC could enter the area run into the golem, see some of what they're capable of and then retreat to figure out how to get past / destroy them, come back and put their plan into action. You could have an unexpected snag mean it doesn't go as smoothly as they expect / give them a loss of some sort to work through. Lots of ways that idea could be very interesting. As others have said, it will work if you write in a way that works. (I appreciate that's similar to answering "how do I lead a good life?" with "be good and live.")
Thank you for the encouragement I feel now that everyone feels the same about this question or almost similar. And I do appreciate this as a beginner because it's not quiet the same replies they imply in the unhuman unpersonable formats and structures of the published books.
 

Fidel

Scribe
Is it lame idea that protagast can simply retreat to safety just because the golems are only guarding there territory not actually a true threat so the whole scence was unnecessary ( it would be some eye opening realisation to the book but I think it as so might be a little to much after he already starting is enlightenment with the demon).
Nah, retreating isn’t lame it’s smart. If the golems are just doing their job and not chasing, it’s a solid way to show your protag’s growth. Plus, it adds realism not every fight needs a showdown. Sometimes walking away is the power move.
 

Dylan

Scribe
Is it lame idea that protagast can simply retreat to safety just because the golems are only guarding there territory not actually a true threat so the whole scence was unnecessary ( it would be some eye opening realisation to the book but I think it as so might be a little to much after he already starting is enlightenment with the demon).
Not lame at all, it could actually be a great moment of realization for the protagonist! If they initially see the golems as a major threat but later understand they were never truly in danger, it adds depth to their journey. Just make sure it doesn’t undermine the tension too much, maybe the protagonist misjudging the situation reflects their growth or shifts their perspective in a meaningful way.
 
Top