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Proto-Italic dictionary

Discussion in 'Research' started by Aldarion, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. Aldarion

    Aldarion Minstrel

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    In my world, "protagonist" country is essentially a cross of Western Roman Empire, Eastern Roman Empire and Holy Roman Empire, so the primary language is Latin. However, I want to make up my own place names, and for that I need a proto-Italic dictionary, as it will form the basis for most names. Does anyone know a good one?
     
  2. skip.knox

    skip.knox toujours gai, archie Moderator

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    You mean like this?
    Latin Place Names | An RBMS Resource
    What you want is not a dictionary but a gazetteer. A search on "catalog of european place names" turned up the above, plus many others.

    As I used to tell my students: seek, and ye shall find; ask, and ye shall be pointed to the library.
     
  3. Aldarion

    Aldarion Minstrel

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    No, that is not at all what I sought. I want a proper dictionary so I can make up my own names.
     
  4. skip.knox

    skip.knox toujours gai, archie Moderator

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    A dictionary is a list of definitions. A gazetteer gives place names along with variant forms, which seemed like the best place to find inspiration for making up one's own terms that were linguistically consistent. You could always supplement that with some reading in the relevant linguistics texts. Here, for example Proto-Italic language - Wikipedia
    That was found by searching on "proto-italic"
     
  5. TheKillerBs

    TheKillerBs Inkling

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    You could use the index diachronica to use Latin and revert the sound changes. I expect people would call the names using Latin pronunciations though, like how lots of place names in Europe have Latin roots but have diverged. You'll also want Celtic or Germanic roots for some of them.
     
  6. Aldarion

    Aldarion Minstrel

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    In the end, I had decided to use Latin and Welsh for basis, and then modify them. These are two examples:
    Blue Ford – Caeruleum Vadum – Caeruledum
    Mouth of River Slaughter – Mouth of Alanastra – Ceg Alanastra – Ceganastra
     
  7. Insolent Lad

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    I used not proto-Italic but Etruscan for something of this sort. The known word pool is rather small, but a number of them made their way into Latin.
     
  8. Aldarion

    Aldarion Minstrel

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    Insolent LadInsolent Lad Problem is that Etruscan has no connecton to Latin that I am aware of, so it would only be useful for a separate group of people, not for ancestors of the group using Latin.
     

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