you are so right. I discovered 'Mythic Scribes' after having belonged to a conventional 'Writers Group' for several years. Manna in the desert.And now I am in total understanding of your previous points and understand why you view tropes and such the way you do, there's a trope about this...A rose by any other name, right? I like these discussions because we get to see how and why other writers, who are also readers, see or do things the way they do. It also shows the fault in our languages and how things could get miscommunicated if this discussion were held elsewhere, or in a different way.
Query: what distinguishes a trope from a chiche' ?