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    How to classify a villain: shave and a haircut, a new suit. That'll class him right up.
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    Agree with mythopoet. Villians bring up an old cartoon, Penelope Pitstop to mind.

    Rather go with an antagonist or rival for the prize. The length he or she is willing to go to get the prize is what draws the line.
    Rival have a sport conotation.
    How many people will call a serial killer a rival of his victims?
    An antagonist is not always the vilan. The person who antagonize a vilan protagonist is an antagonist.

    By the way nasty people exist bouth in the real world and in adult fiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skip.knox View Post
    How to classify a villain: shave and a haircut, a new suit. That'll class him right up.
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    The difference is...that a villain can't be reasoned with, it can't be bargained with, and it absolutely will not stop ever until you are dead!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annoyingkid View Post
    The difference is...that a villain can't be reasoned with, it can't be bargained with, and it absolutely will not stop ever until you are dead!
    This sounds like the terminator robot.

    I thought the video was worthwhile, and she has some good pointers to bring up. Whether we use the word antagonist or villain would not seem to matter much to me with applying some of the things mentioned in the video. Like others, I don't really think in terms of 'I am going to make X type of villain for the story' but more so, I make it what it is and at the end, I might be able to go back and put them in a type of box. The boxes she uses are hardly all encompassing, and are general enough that I suspect a lot of story baddies could be stuffed into one of them. For me, this would be food for thought during a rewrite. If I already recognize that the antagonist/villain is fitting into one of these roles, I might decide to go and play it up more. Plus, she was cute. I 'd watch more of what she had to say. If nothing else, it just adds some other stuff to the tool box even if I never use it.
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    I kinda never have a villan. I have strange circumstances leading to conflict.
    maybe I like to think every one is a good person. But I like the story to show way that person did that evil thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skip.knox View Post
    How to classify a villain: shave and a haircut, a new suit. That'll class him right up.
    I love me a well dressed villain.
    i am a dragon with torn and broken wings,
    but i am still a dragon

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    But, on topic, I don't really classify villains. Each one is unique. If I were to classify them at all, it would likely be by motivation. But motivations are too complex to demarcate clearly, so that causes even more problems. Villains tend to act both out of their desire for an outward goal and the need to assuage an internal pain or strife...in other words, villains want something, like protagonists, but they are often screwed-up and broken on the inside and that contributes to the evil acts they commit.

    I guess you could come up with a workable classification system, but the categories would overlap.

    There's villains motivated by power, success, etc...

    There's those motivated by a cause or ideal which seems right to them, but either is accomplished in a "the ends justify the means" sort of way or is morally loathsome anyway...

    There's those motivated by hatred/anger/revenge...

    There's those who are motivated by fear because they serve an evil master who will squash them if they don't do his bidding...I guess this is Wormtail, if we're going to go with Harry Potter.

    There's those who are just pure chaotic evil and do it for the lolz...or are just monsters not intelligent or conscious enough to comprehend morality.

    But if you try to actually sort villains, they'll fall into multiple categories often.
    i am a dragon with torn and broken wings,
    but i am still a dragon

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