Should Pizza exist in a "fantasy" setting?

[Naruzeldamaster]

And no, I don't mean like, some silly fantasy equivalent. I mean straight up, deep dish, regular crust etc, and because of my particular world, maybe even frozen.

Now I'm not set on calling a duck a duck, but due to the setting and tone of the story, Pizza (the item) wouldn't be that outlandish. I was going to have it that not many people have heard of it and it's only known by one of the clans. Also considering 'hot dogs' and 'hamburgers' too. There's a particular clan that's creative enough/outlandish enough to have concocted these things even in a fantasy setting, they have the tools too.

 

[Queshire]

*shrug* Sauce, cheese and meat on bread. There's no reason it couldn't have been invented in a fantasy setting. Same with a sausage on bread or ground meat shaped into a patty on bread.

That said, Pizza has been around for a pretty long time, but it'd almost be unrecognizable to modern day.

EDIT: Though what the audience will accept is an important question which isn't always connected to what's actually historically accurate. You'd be surprised at just how old the name Tiffany is.

EDIT 2: Though if we're talking about portability and convenience then I believe that various forms of pies would be more common in ye olde times than a sandwich. Don't quote me on that though.

 

[Naruzeldamaster]

*shrug* Sauce, cheese and meat on bread. There's no reason it couldn't have been invented in a fantasy setting. Same with a sausage on bread or ground meat shaped into a patty on bread.

That said, Pizza has been around for a pretty long time, but it'd almost be unrecognizable to modern day.

EDIT: Though what the audience will accept is an important question which isn't always connected to what's actually historically accurate. You'd be surprised at just how old the name Tiffany is.

EDIT 2: Though if we're talking about portability and convenience then I believe that various forms of pies would be more common in ye olde times than a sandwich. Don't quote me on that though.

The audience is told out the gate that there is a magical clan known as the "L33T" clan and that if that doesn't tell them the intended tone of the story then I can't help em. Though I might have to reword how directly I say that. It's not an overtly serious story (Except when it needs to be, obviously) and a lot of the characters are simi-self aware. The audience is also told that despite the (mostly) comedic tone, it will be serious when plot requires seriousness.

The L33T Clan are pretty eccentric in one way or another (The Main Party member from there is almost always high on something) but they are powerful mages and they are a greater threat as enemies than as allies. Although it is part of the lore that most royalty/nobles don't like 'dealing' with them. That behavior kind of goes both ways though, cause these folks are naturally tense around Royalty and nobles.

 

[Devor]

My headcannon is that pizza exists in every setting, if only in our hearts.

 

[Naruzeldamaster]

My headcannon is that pizza exists in every setting, if only in our hearts.

Oh lord, imagine Star Wars Pizza...

 

[pmmg]

Well, there was Pizza the Hutt.

 

[Naruzeldamaster]

Well, there was Pizza the Hutt.

True, and in fantasy Australia they have little joeys /silly.

 

[pmmg]

If it is really a non-earth fantasy, and there was no reason to expect such similarity, that they might come up with paste on flat bread would not be surprising, but to call it pizza would seem unlikely.

 

[Naruzeldamaster]

If it is really a non-earth fantasy, and there was no reason to expect such similarity, that they might come up with paste on flat bread would not be surprising, but to call it pizza would seem unlikely.

Yeah, I'm not set on calling it pizza, though you're right that an eccentric clan like the L33T Clan could come up with it. They also have Rice balls because it's good for energy and easy to eat. It helps that the clan itself is kind of a 'conglomerate' clan made up of people from all the different cultures.

 

[Zilver]

It does in mine. My MC starts out as pizza delivery guy.

 

[Orc Knight]

Funny thing about Star Wars and pizza. It's a thing.

Pizza/Legends

Pizza was a type of food. One variety of pizza was calamari pizza, though some vendors did not carry it due to the existence of the Mon Calamari species. Pizza could be kept in a box for transportation, and could be consumed by Humans, Iktotchi, Togruta, and members of Yoda's species.[1] In 32...

starwars.fandom.com

 

[El_d_ray]

Food and history are very my topic!
Pizza is not only relatively simple dish to make, but also existed in an ancient time. Recipe for something similar can be found pretty easily in roman's time and ancient Greece, possibly even earlier. That is to say, it was a crust with toppings and a white sauce, not a tomato.
Now, even the word "pizza" possible coming from "pitta" (the same one with the pita bread) and I think it's perfectly fine to use it in a fantasy setting. More so, it would be very simple and affordable thing, centered around big oven places.

 

[Naruzeldamaster]

Food and history are very my topic!
Pizza is not only relatively simple dish to make, but also existed in an ancient time. Recipe for something similar can be found pretty easily in roman's time and ancient Greece, possibly even earlier. That is to say, it was a crust with toppings and a white sauce, not a tomato.
Now, even the word "pizza" possible coming from "pitta" (the same one with the pita bread) and I think it's perfectly fine to use it in a fantasy setting. More so, it would be very simple and affordable thing, centered around big oven places.

I was going to have it that one of my main characters comes up with it (Well, she didn't invent it, it's a staple food in her clan) in order to provide the kingdom an item for their exports. Reason being in order to be accepted as one of their own (For this particular country) you need to do so and present it to royalty and convince them it's worth it to have them live there. This isn't a rule for people born there, its mostly for outsiders. (and it's basically impossible for outsiders to arrive there in the first place due to the deadly wall of wind and sand surrounding the continent)

She does have a stone brick oven in her 'house' (It's not exactly a proper building, per say more like a shop stall in a market) cause she prefers the smell of the wood flavors on her food. The locals are very confused about how the oven works though.

 

[Miles Lacey]

I work in an Italian restaurant so I am well and truly cured of any desire to see, eat or read about pizza in any way, shape or form but I can't see any reason why you can't have pizza in your novel.

I eat quite a lot of Indian food because I work next door to an Indian takeaway that makes genuine Punjabi cuisine so it's given me ideas about the cuisine in my story as it's set in the tropics. In my story pizza is made from naan bread, which is a local favourite especially as it's very economic to make. However, they don't call it pizza. The local name for it is te faraoa.

Thanks to the island's politicians who have a tendency to drink too many rums, whiskeys or (if they belong to the island's high society) cocktails and are often drunk or hung over when passing laws there is an island law that states that anyone who puts pineapple or tinned food products on a pizza can be sentenced to a maximum of three years on a penal colony.

There are also rumours within the Banjari Empire (of which the island the story is set in is a remote self-governing outpost equivalent to Taiwan in our world) that there is a group of assasins who hunt down and kill people who commit culinary offences. These Banjaris take their food very seriously!

 

[Orc Knight]

Oh, and thanks to the island's politicians who have a tendency to drink too many rums, whiskeys or (if they belong to the island's high society) cocktails there is a law that states that anyone who puts pineapple or tinned food products on a pizza can be sentenced to a maximum of three years on a penal colony

All that over anchovies and a fruit? Sound more like a depressing HOA then government.

 

[Miles Lacey]

All that over anchovies and a fruit? Sound more like a depressing HOA then government.

The idea for this law was inspired by this:

Jimmy Kimmel blasts Bill English's pizza

Jimmy Kimmel has joked that Prime Minister Bill English declared war on Italy with his canned spaghetti pizza. English came under fire for a Facebook post

www.newstalkzb.co.nz

I used to work for politicians in the New Zealand Parliament. I incorporated a lot of the more "unorthodox" behaviours of those politicians into my work in progress.

 

[Naruzeldamaster]

I work in an Italian restaurant so I am well and truly cured of any desire to see, eat or read about pizza in any way, shape or form but I can't see any reason why you can't have pizza in your novel.

This is both incredibly intriguing and awesomely amusing that you can look past your Italian restaurant horrors to give this advise.
I'd wager you have nothing against the dish itself, more so that you have no desire for it (either seeing or eating) because of the workplace, very respectable tbh. If it helps there's many more fantasy based foods in the novel that you might find more appealing.

Like a brew that's made from dragon's milk (don't ask me how the milk is secured, I don't know either lol) and fermented in dragon's breath, stuff is so alcoholic that just a cup of the stuff will put the sternest drinkers under the table. You're not seen as a true alcoholic until you can down a cup of the stuff without passing out. A few people can drink more than one.

I eat quite a lot of Indian food because I work next door to an Indian takeaway that makes genuine Punjabi cuisine so it's given me ideas about the cuisine in my story as it's set in the tropics. In my story pizza is made from naan bread, which is a local favourite especially as it's very economic to make. However, they don't call it pizza. The local name for it is te faraoa.

In Monster Hunter Wild's there's a dish that is essentially this. Fresh baked stone fired bread (Seems to be Naan but you can't really tell in game) baked in a 'pie' shape with an ungodly amount of cheese on top. I say this as someone who LOVES cheese, mind. No idea if there's a sauce in the middle (At best, maybe an oil of some kind, again hard to tell.) but it's essentially what would happen if Indians came up with the dish. you should look up all the Monster hunter food animations, those hunters eat a LOT in one sitting like holy cow lol

Thanks to the island's politicians who have a tendency to drink too many rums, whiskeys or (if they belong to the island's high society) cocktails and are often drunk or hung over when passing laws there is an island law that states that anyone who puts pineapple or tinned food products on a pizza can be sentenced to a maximum of three years on a penal colony.

There are also rumours within the Banjari Empire (of which the island the story is set in is a remote self-governing outpost equivalent to Taiwan in our world) that there is a group of assasins who hunt down and kill people who commit culinary offences. These Banjaris take their food very seriously!

that's great Food exchange is about the only reason the nations in my story communicate with eachother. Being that it's incredibly difficult to communicate due to the circumstances. (Each nation has a different natural 'barrier' around it that's also magical so really only the government knows how to get past them) I'd go into more detail but we'd be here all day lol