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Battlemages; Do you use them?

Discussion in 'World Building' started by shangrila, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. Queshire

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    Originally in my world no one can directly use magic. Magic could only be manipulated through the use of magi-tech devices. In the upper world, a small bottle-civilization either located in the upper atmosphere, a space station, or on the moon (I haven't decided which yet) it's still like that since they are a remnant of the pre-apocalypse civilization.

    In the lower world, due to being exposed to a high amount of magical radiation for centuries, just about everyone has mutated to be able to absorb, store, and process magical energy as spells. This includes the warriors who use magic to reinforce and strengthen themselves and their body. There's also more traditional mages who throw fireballs and stuff. Finally, those that would be considered traditional battlemages that combine both the internalizing of magic of warriors and the externalizing of magic of the mages exist, but due to their split focus they aren't as powerful in either discipline as a specialist.
     
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  2. Addison

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    I use a multitude of magical practices, Battle Mages among them. I don't know if I'll call them something different but for now it's battle mages. And, as battle mages usually go into military, law enforcement or other such areas they are in ranks based on their strongest magic. Those who are better with shields go in the field and help protect their comrades or set shields around vehicles and such. Those with the greater offensive powers, fireballs, making themselves strong as an ape etc, are in the field. Although those who throw things like fire are either in a plane or behind lines giving cover fire for the ape-fighting types.
     
  3. Zero Angel

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    I have tons of battlemages. The question comes down to focus I guess. Neither training to fight effectively with weapons nor training to fight effectively with magick is something that can be done in a day, so you frequently have people that are very good at this or that, but not both. Still, in WotA, magick is something that is ingrained in almost every person of every race, so almost everyone at least complements their martial prowess with magick flavor.
     
  4. mbartelsm

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    Must check it out then
     
  5. Actually, Dragon Age does have battlemages,two types: Arcane Warrior and Knight Enchanter. That may not be pertinent to the question att hand, but I just felt it should be mentioned.
     
  6. Chuck

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    The issue I would have with a mage/warrior would be how armor and magic affect each other. If someone is wearing plate armor, a fireball or lightning bolt would conduct through the armor and hurt the caster. Also, heavy armor would limit fine movement, so if casting requires intricate hand movements, that would slow down the casting.

    I like the idea of using magic to enhance the warrior. He casts a spell to give his sword additional damage. Another spell strengthens his armor. Occasionally he might cast a force bolt, hitting his victim like a battering ram.
     
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  7. Angry Briar Rabbit

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    If a character is going to be GREAT at welding a sword, then that is all they do. Think of it like a musician, if someone wants to be excellent with a guitar, they will not be grand at anything else. That being said, I would not exclude the possibility and I like the idea of a warrior being able to cast a solid spell. They might be limited in their spell repertoire, however. A kind of "special attack" that they develop over time.
     
  8. If you are not wearing armour you would still get fried by a lightning bolt or fireball though. I don't see how that would change. If anything, magical armour could help. And while armour maybe wouldn't stop a fireball it would stop an arrow, which is just as likely to kill you on a field of battle.

    Also, armour doesn't limit movement nearly as much as films want us to believe.
     
  9. ThinkerX

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    most of the 'battlemages' on my world were legionaries who tested positive for magical talent. They'd already been trained with sword and spear and crossbow. Even afterwards..,well, the wizards of my worlds are wimps in magical ability. Spells for fixing and finding, petty wards and misleading illusions, the occasional 'trip them up' or entanglement spell. Not many could manage fireballs and lightning bolts.
     
  10. Archunt3r

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    I've got something akin to Battlemages in some of my books, which as mentioned strong physically and mentally, that will don armor whether it be plate armor, chain mail, or whatever but will fight with sword and shield, as well as magic when it's needed. Either used for misdirection or for damage or help buffing/augmenting.
     
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  11. Chuck

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    Heat and electricity take the path of least resistance. When the fireball or lightning bolt leaves the mage's fingers, if it connects with the metal armor, it would conduct through the armor. Without the armor, it would fly away from the mage.
     
  12. Not really. At least not on a macro scale. Lightning seeks a path towards the biggest difference in charge. Which is pretty much always the earth. It is why you shouldn't stand in an open field in a thunderstorm. The metal armour makes little difference here, unless it has a lot of spikes.

    Of course, you can always apply some "because magic" reasoning. You need to anyway, since I suspect that the lightning bolt otherwise jumps to the earth as fast as possible. I.e. right in front of the mages feet...
     
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  13. Angry Briar Rabbit

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    Magic energy attracted to other magic energy, perhaps? ABR
     
  14. Patrick-Leigh

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    My flintlock fantasy setting has all kinds of battle mages, including (drum roll please) GUN MAGES!!! (Think Samus Aran's arm cannon, only with flintlock weapons.)
     
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  15. StrawhatOverlord

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    Yes, in a few ways. Royal and Imperial armies have mage divisions. Some rulers have "paladins" (I'm not gonna call them that but haven't named them yet) who can do some magic, but it's not scholarly wizardry. Priests of the war gods would mostly be warriors as per their demands of worship, but that's not traditional mages either. Then there's legit actual wizards who are also legit warriors, called battlemages (unless I find a more original name that also sounds cool later), but most of them tend to specialized in one or the other much more, or be not that great at both. A few are actually very good at both and they're basically living legends, referred to as "Battlemage_insert name_".
     
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