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Don't know if this will help, but I have always enjoyed playing with the social norms within the species of Orcs, Goblins, etc. Do you remember Gremlins (Gremlins II, maybe), how there was that one articulate one? This strikes me as a creative opp' for orcs in a Gothic setting. Maybe instead of the LOR brutes, the orcs in a Gothic world are civilized descendants of those very LOR types. This would this would allow for some classic Gothic themes to play out with orcan characters. *Picturing an orcan poe, lamenting in his study, his ancestor's spirit wafting up from the crypt.