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Fantasy vs Being Realistic

In a lot of ways, realism is more to be consistent enough to build the rules for your drama.

That is, you show that A can't happen and C can't so the hero has to make B work. In theory, you can be as inaccurate or sparse as you like as long as the gaps of "but maybe A could-" and "B wouldn't-" aren't as large as the difference that makes B still look better than A, and there's enough dramatic energy that readers care about the difference they're being led to.

Of course using more realistic detail builds a tighter, more convincing statement about each of those, and of course it slows down the plot of moving from A to B-- depending on the readership, since some fans get more into the reasoning (tactics, economics, seamanship, ?) of really settling one point than moving along.

But I think what matters most is the balance: between all the A, B and Cs and the momentum we give different points, including recognizing when we aren't as interested in a detail and being sure that part has enough energy to skip on past it. And that means, the more precise you get in one place, it makes it a little harder to skip along at others-- at least a little harder, though we all do it as our pacing and preferences need.
 

Chime85

Sage
haha the bullet thing was funny. I had a boyfriend in high school (he was a bit older than me) and one day I laid on his arm, cuddling close. He hissed and sat up. Not the reaction I was looking for. He said, "Ow, you're on my bullet."

I was a bit shocked and asked, "What?"

It was then that he pinched the skin of his bicep, bringing a bullet to the surface, right under the skin. Turns out he was shot in the back and the bullet ricocheted through his armpit and ended up in his bicep. He nearly bled to death and they rushed him to surgery, but they left the bullet in to prevent further blood loss. So again, throughout my life, I've racked up a whole load of experiences and I draw a lot from the people I've known and the places I've been as inspiration to add realism to little segments of my stories. To me, those little gems are the best parts and while I don't often write about saving the world, I do human interaction pretty well because of the people I've known. I put the bullet thing into a scene once, where a guy is trying to dig a bullet out of a wounded comrade and he says, "If they're not lodged in vital tissue, sometimes we leave them and allow the body to heal around them."

:) I love realism in books, if for nothing else than recalling the very colorful life I've led. I guess that's why I'm more drawn to the gray scale characters and plotlines. I don't often write true goodness and true badness, but a mixture of flawed characters trying to do the right thing and self-driven characters who stop at nothing to see their own goals realized. Thanks chime for admitting you've frozen yourself in the name of research. I too have done experiments once in a while, if for nothing else than to see how I would react to certain things and therefore how my characters would. While a fully concocted world and magic and stuff can be very well done, I feel like there's an obvious element missing from a lot of beginning writers' work. You can see that they've never been to mountains by how they describe them or have never feared for their lives by how their characters react. I think too often people give stock responses to things and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when stories become too predictable. That's why I love a bit of weirdness once in a while, something unexpected or an observation that gets me thinking, "wow, this is something only a person who was really there would notice." I mentioned this before in my rant about The Kiterunner. In the first half of the novel, the author really drew me in. Painted a picture that fully immersed me in a realistic, convincing world. The whole second half was disillusioning and disappointing, as if written by a completely different person. It was like Dorothy went back to Kansas' black-and-whiteness, turned off the magic and just closed her eyes.

Whatever else I strive to do, it's to keep that magic, that wonder and colorfulness turned on throughout the story.


Thanks, Maiden for that bullet story, I found that very interesting and enjoyable to read. To be honest, I find experimenting with different ideas to be half the fun of writing. I too feel the sense of disconnection if a character reacts strangely to a situation, as you said, a sense of fear in a character that comes off as unconvincing.

Case in point, there is part of my story where one of the main characters gets wounded, losing one of her eyes. Now I know what a sore eye feels like, so I thankfully did not need to research that. However, in that scene, she is confused and disorientated in the midst of battle. I decided the best way to describe the sense of disorientation was to try to experience it myself. So, with the help of a scarf I was able to cover one of my eyes. I played a battle scene from my DVD collection as loudly as I could and spun around as quickly as possible for as long as I could withstand. I can tell you now that I know what being disorientated with a vision impairment feels like. I like to think that helped with that scene.

I too enjoy hearing people’s stories about their lives, and I find those tales very interesting and enlightening. When I was a bit younger, I worked in a model shop (small train sets etc, not a shop to purchase pleasant looking humans haha!) One customer told us about his experience in WWII. He was explaining that unlike in the movies, when you see a tank rolling your way, you get out of the way and run for your life. To be honest, I think that is a much more relatable reaction than a strong jawed movie star trying to have a fist fight with the tanks gunman while still having the mental fortitude to come off with a pun at the end.
 
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Caged Maiden

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I love that example, Chime. Those are exactly the sorts of things I try to avoid. So when I write, I try to draw from my own reactions as often as possible.

I remember driving through the Cascade range when I was ten. Me and my brother in the back seat of the van, looking out the window as the sun set. Nothing. Just nothingness. There was nothing beautiful about those mountains, just an endless sea of granite. A sheer cliff going up in the left and another going down on the right, past the guardrail. It was the emptiest, loneliest feeling imaginable. No life, just stone. I wrote that into a novel where my heroes are trekking through these mountains looking for a dragon. I wanted that loneliness to get through to a reader.

When someone reads that passage, I hope they know how I felt when I was ten. I don't want them to see a majestic snow-capped mountain or quaint alpine village. It was desolate, a wasteland of death and nothingness. I think that life experiences and observation serve the author within us all much better than creating details that come to mind first. In that case, I'd have pictured mountains as beautiful and serene. Not at all what I wanted my characters to experience...

Hey chime, I'm going to start a thread about realism. Maybe some other people would enjoy us sharing our stories. Your eye one was really a great idea.
 

Chime85

Sage
I love that example, Chime. Those are exactly the sorts of things I try to avoid. So when I write, I try to draw from my own reactions as often as possible.

I remember driving through the Cascade range when I was ten. Me and my brother in the back seat of the van, looking out the window as the sun set. Nothing. Just nothingness. There was nothing beautiful about those mountains, just an endless sea of granite. A sheer cliff going up in the left and another going down on the right, past the guardrail. It was the emptiest, loneliest feeling imaginable. No life, just stone. I wrote that into a novel where my heroes are trekking through these mountains looking for a dragon. I wanted that loneliness to get through to a reader.

When someone reads that passage, I hope they know how I felt when I was ten. I don't want them to see a majestic snow-capped mountain or quaint alpine village. It was desolate, a wasteland of death and nothingness. I think that life experiences and observation serve the author within us all much better than creating details that come to mind first. In that case, I'd have pictured mountains as beautiful and serene. Not at all what I wanted my characters to experience...

Hey chime, I'm going to start a thread about realism. Maybe some other people would enjoy us sharing our stories. Your eye one was really a great idea.

That's a really good perspective on mountains, I'm glad you brought that up. It is interesting how sometimes we imagine something to be completely different from reality.

I'm glad you thought the eye story was a good idea, I didn't want to come across as crazy haha! I'd definately join in if you start up that thread. I think it would be a great idea, Caged :)
 
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