Ships and More Ships

[pmmg]

Hey all.

I am in need of ships to look up and possibly include in my guide. What I am looking for is not an exhaustive list of everything that floats, but a good representation of ships for various time periods, specially if they were prominent, and could give people an idea of how ships of a period were made, and what they could do. If you know of any you think must be included, please clue me in.

(I am going to do Junks...but they cover like 2500 bc to today, so I am thinking on how to do them.)

Check out my guide please.

Goldie's Guide to Ships

PS: Nothing after 1900 please, not looking for Steam and above.
PSS: Also not looking for mythical ships, or ships made for movies...the Black Pearl, for example, could outperform most ships of its day, cause that's how Disney made it. I want ships with actual data that can be looked up.

 

[El_d_ray]

I just want to comment that your guide is very appreciated and useful! Thank you for putting it all together.
Unfortunately can't contribute data on my own as my resources not in English. I did found original Shogun book very good depiction of work on the ships of that time period, including terminology and many types of vessels. But it's not really distilled of course.

 

[SamazonE]

I looked through it, but there was no barque. Why, for the love of god, no barque?

 

[Naruzeldamaster]

The Mayflower and the Titanic is some of the most romantic writing I have ever seen.

Spoiler

No I am not explaining the joke, do your homework

 

[pmmg]

The very first ship is a Barque... But, I am on it.

I have said many times, I am always looking for info on ships, like how fast, and how many crew. And I said one day I am going to write a writers aid... So, seemed like a good time to get started. What I noticed though, is that time did not greatly change some of the stats. Seems like 11 knots was the max for quite a long time.

The goal is to create enough of a sampling that writers and gamers can find a ship that is a close match, and know if it makes sense and what it might be capable of. Its not the goal to add everything that floats cause....there are probably as many ships as people, it would just be too much.

In looking up Barques, I found another great discovery, so I will be adding to it soon.

 

[Naruzeldamaster]

The very first ship is a Barque... But, I am on it.

I have said many times, I am always looking for info on ships, like how fast, and how many crew. And I said one day I am going to write a writers aid... So, seemed like a good time to get started. What I noticed though, is that time did not greatly change some of the stats. Seems like 11 knots was the max for quite a long time.

The goal is to create enough of a sampling that writers and gamers can find a ship that is a close match, and know if it makes sense and what it might be capable of. Its not the goal to add everything that floats cause....there are probably as many ships as people, it would just be too much.

In looking up Barques, I found another great discovery, so I will be adding to it soon.

If you're talking about games. On solid Ice the Minecraft boat (often made out of a few bits of wood) that steve/alex can ride in can travel at several cubic meters per second, literally the fastest travel method in the game. (Unless you include dolphins grace but I assume we're talking non magical game mechanics, so I assume both soul sand and dolphins grace shenanigans is out for this.) Don't know how fast that translates into Knots but I'd be curious to find out. To date it seems to be the fastest aquatic boat I've seen in a video game that doesn't have a modern engine.

Though not quite as fast on water, but to say the small craft doesn't have the 'zoomies' compared to say, a canoe, would be an understatement, it is still quite fast on water. It just takes a lot longer to reach top speed.

In real life the MC bot would be terrifying to ride in, as it has zero friction on ice (hence the insane speed in game) and in earlier versions would fall apart at the slightest impact.

 

[pmmg]

I think the minecraft boat qualifies as fictional. Wouldn't it be more of a sled?

 

[Naruzeldamaster]

I think the minecraft boat qualifies as fictional. Wouldn't be more of a sled?

You'd think that but in mine craft there are no sleds (don't ask me why lol I don't work at Mojang) so I guess the boat serves both functions.
I'd probably consider the MC boat to be closer to a one person paddle boat/rowboat, just that in game, it travels extremely fast. Though the bamboo design for the boat does look a lot like a sled.

The game is measured in cubic meter blocks (that is the actual measurement for a single in game block 1 meter squared) and on water it travels roughly half as fast as on ice. It's speed on ice is pretty fast though. On ice it's travel speed is 40 blocks a second. On Water it's about half as much.


People have made videos on how floatable the thing is to varying degrees of success. Of course the amount of success depends on how accurate they want to be to the in game design. And of course, the real life model won't be traveling anywhere near as fast because you know, physics.

More confusing than the boat's capability to move quickly (despite clearly being a paddle boat) is it's ability to absorb fall damage, while riding inside the boat you take no fall damage despite falling hundreds of blocks at terminal velocity.