Garren Jacobsen
Auror
Wow, it's already been a whole year since cockygate. Good times.
If any of you have Copyright or Trademark questions, whether relating specifically to Publishing or otherwise, feel free to post them in this thread and I'll answer. I'm sure other members of the forums will provide answers as well, which is good. It is nice to have a broad range of experience to bring to bear. Of course, I should point out that nothing posted by anyone in this thread will constitute legal advice
I'm also happy to entertain Patent questions, as well as questions relating to other areas of law.
Thats the rule far as I know it.
Are making a research material or thesis? I think I would pass on actual footnotes if it was a work of fiction. If, for example, I had a character who quoted Tolkien a lot, I dont think I would bother the reader with footnotes.
It's a book about Tolkien and Middle-earth.
You should be okay then. Short passages, properly cited, are fair use, especially if it's like a documentary type thing. In fact it's kind of weird, but you can sell a book where JRR Tolkein himself is a character who goes into a parody resembling Middle Earth and gets excited about the silly languages and he can quote himself sometimes and it's all fine, but don't dare do that same thing with Frodo Baggins as the MC (at least, not if you want to sell it).
If it was academia, you would probably be citing down to the page and the printing/edition of the book you used to find it.SO does each and every passage need citation to the chapter it is pulled from?
SO does each and every passage need citation to the chapter it is pulled from?
You should use a proper bibliography to be safe. I don't think footnotes would be necessary. But an addendum saying "The passage quoted on page 72 is from...."
Well...my college professors would have said one citation per quote. But, I am not sure this is the same as a collegiate work.
I could make each citation point to the same reference. And you can use a type a shorthand for it as well and still be in the APA standard.
Chicago has a similar style of shorthand.
You'll have to pull up their guidelines but I found this: https://www.libs.uga.edu/ref/chicagostyle.pdf
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Use the full citation the first time you cite the work in your notes. For subsequent notes use the author’s last name only and shorten the title if it has more than four words. If the work has no identifiable author or editor, start the citation with the title.
1. Andrew Gelman, Red State, Blue State, Rich State, Poor State (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 2008), 144.
5. Gelman, Red State, 160.
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You might use a citation machine to make it easier. There are a number of free ones online.
(And I swore I would never do citations again :~( )
Chicago has a similar style of shorthand.
You'll have to pull up their guidelines but I found this: https://www.libs.uga.edu/ref/chicagostyle.pdf
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Use the full citation the first time you cite the work in your notes. For subsequent notes use the author’s last name only and shorten the title if it has more than four words. If the work has no identifiable author or editor, start the citation with the title.
1. Andrew Gelman, Red State, Blue State, Rich State, Poor State (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 2008), 144.
5. Gelman, Red State, 160.
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You might use a citation machine to make it easier. There are a number of free ones online.
(And I swore I would never do citations again :~( )
Just sayin.... unless this is meant to be a true reference source material, I might look to fudge a bit on onerous citing.
But if you were a student in a class, I might have to say you need page numbers if you have them.
Hi,
Well here's an odd wrinkle on this - save that it's not about trademarked names just names. My latest Barton Villa book features the criminal organization - Golden Dawn It's a fiction book and it takes their already bad name and makes up a whole bunch of BS about them - the sort of stuff they might actually have done along with much of the rest of the far right. When I started writing it, they weren't going to have a major role in the book so I didn't care. But as their role grew it occurred to me - they could get upset. Now this isn't a trademark issue - it's a libel issue. And the test for defending yourself against libel is whether someone could not reasonably believe that what is said is true. Unfortunately in this case apart from the sci fi parts, someone could believe that GD did all these things.
My solution in the end was to make up a new name for them _ The Liberation Front. (Yes I let the terrorists win!) But my point is this. If you're using someone's name, trademarked or not, consider the simplest option - not using it.
Cheers, Greg.
Just sayin.... unless this is meant to be a true reference source material, I might look to fudge a bit on onerous citing.
But if you were a student in a class, I might have to say you need page numbers if you have them.