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How to write good poems.

pmmg

Myth Weaver
Some say a poem need not rhyme
That alliterative verse does just fine
And epic Beowulf stands the time
along with Greeks who matched no lines
And yet, what harm, is there to find
When poems speak with words that chime?


Personally, I think the rhythm is much harder to get right.
 
If I were to rate what I considered important in a poem, id say this:
1. Emotional connection
2. Clarity of content
3. Musical prose
4. Meter
5. Rhyme
1. A sentence that carries enough emotional gravity is considered poetic without having to have anything else. If it hits like a ton of bricks, it doesn't even need to make alot of sense.
2. Next is clarity of subject matter. Hence the haiku describes something, then hits with the emotional connection on the last line. Both are needed.

Then I move down from there. If I can make it rhyme, awesome, but if it does its job well I can stop at any point along that list and be satisfied.

The poems I write that end up getting filed under 86 are ones when I move the wrong way up that list. When I do that, it probably shouldn't be a poem.

Edit: the only exception to that rule I can see is the epic, history-relating poem, but as a novelist I'd say that if I don't have something pretty emotionally heavy to convey in it, I'd rather make it a page out of a history book or a flashback.

PPS: Checking back, I think I'd swap rhyme and meter, actually.
 
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Continuing the thought, I think depending on how weak the previous steps are depends on how much of the list I use. I don't think I've ever made a sentence-poem with such face-smashing emotion that I could stop right there and back away.
Usually I already have a pretty good idea of what I'm going for. I write it in paragraph form for context and emotion, then start converting it to see if I'm going to stop at musicality, like alliteration and assonance, or if I start seeing a cool pattern and am having a "I can think of words" day shoot for meter and rhyme.
 

hunfrith

Acolyte
I reckon a lot of readers and writers of (especially modern) poetry share that mentality, but for myself, I appreciate the skill required in fitting a narrative, setting and message within the confines of a clear scheme. I find that there is an admirable restraint there. Then again, my own collection features plenty of looser verse in it. Certain imagery or themes can benefit from a more free approach, but even there I personally expect to find assonance, consonance and alliteration in abundance.
I agree; I find the constraining nature of poetry to be super beneficial in my work - it forces me to think about the language I am using in a different way. While it takes me more time to come up with how to say what I want to say, I find that it helps facilitate the actual saying of it in a different way than prose does. And when I transition to writing prose after having written poetry for a while, I find the words and flow even of the prose come more naturally and turn out better because I have been forcing my mind to think in a poetic manner.
 
Poems don't necessarily need rhymes, although I feel they help make the poem elegant.
And when writing poetry remember to think creatively yet not in clutter.
 
Choose two topics or themes to write a poem about and integrate them together.
Keep them integrated with not only description but also rhyming.
 
Choose a topic that is not only interesting but also has multiple meanings.
Elaborate on these meanings by comparing them.
 
A topic with two themes works well if the themes can be related and also are different.
Make the poem about the topic and both themes.
Compare the themes of the topic to each other, similarities including differences.
 
Poetic traction oil.
What is poetic traction oil for?
Our minds as we write to settle the score.
Is poetic traction oil used on a poem or on our mind as we write and think of them?
Poetic traction oil may be the difference between the two, I feel both do kink.
How might I use poetic traction oil?
Think of a vial adding drop to your mind, and a drop to the poem you are writing as well.
Where may I buy such a oil?
I buy mine from a poetic store on a street known as poetry street.
How may I make my own traction oil?
Indeed.
A drop of the title indeed.
A drop of poetic greed.
A poetic bead.
A drop of this bead I need.
A drop of poetic oil.
A drop of poetic rubber.
A drop of a genie lamp not a rub.
 

Karlin

Troubadour
Here's a relevant odd bit of information:
The epic of Gilgamesh has been translated into Biblical Hebrew, since the language is relatively close to Akkadian, so it has a similar rhythm and "feel" to it. This is helpful only for those who read Biblical Hebrew, yet there are far more of those than there are Akkadian readers.
 
Imagine your poem is a flower, each petal a line.
And the center of the flower where the rhymes resonate.
Or perhaps the center of the flower represents the meaning of the poem.
 
Write a poem that is about two things, instead of one.
If these two things are similar, they might resonate together.
Create lines that rhyme, mixed with the resonation.
 
Clear your mind of thoughts as much as you can.
Focus on the poem your writing.
Mix new ideas you think of quickly.
Backtrack if needed, changing words around and such.
I do this when writing novels and short stories as well.
 
Think of a poem that starts simple and becomes more complex as you write it.
Add a ending that evenly reflects on such a poem.
Weave in some rhymes.
 

Owlsrayne

New Member
Post your strategy when writing good poetry.
Elaborate on the factors that you use in poetry, such as themes and ambience.
How does the name of the poem relate to the content?
How does each line relate to the previous or the next?
How do the words that rhyme relate to each other and the content of the poem?

As for me, I enjoy writing poems.
As for factors, themes and ambience, I often choose something unique and or interesting.
Choosing a good name is important, choose a name that relates to all parts of your poem.
Or choose a name for the poem that resonates.
Each line must be important, try to make each line relate the next.
Rhymes can be made to relate to each other, or perhaps to the content of the poem when combined.
I use these strategies and they seem to work well.

Writing resources.
I have been writing poetry since college now retired and I belong the to a local poetry group. The group has helped me improved my writing through constructive criticism.
The title is not always important for me in writing a poem. I don’t write rhyming poem's. Writing prose type of poems I able to tell a story in a short form. All my poetry is mystical and in the fantasy vein.
 
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