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Magic systems please!

Badgerfrog

Dreamer
...and my magic has a ghost sword. I am humbled, my good sir or ma'am(Or both or neither), and I humbly request your feedback on my system, if you would be so kind.
Swords are cool tho.

I'm a dude, man.

The first thing I see is that your post is pretty focused on the capabilities and limitations of the magic system itself and somewhat its history.

Purely as a magic system it feels pretty fleshed out, as though you have a good idea in your head of how it would work in real life and why it functions the way it does.

One thing I'd maybe do is "Why" it. Just ask "Why" about every little detail and question the answers you come up with even further until you get really granular. That'll help develop reasons for things to be the way they are in your world and help you flesh them out in a way that allows you to build upon solid foundations.

You definitely don't need to add this all to a story or even write it down(it does help though), so long as you as a writer know the answers, and understand how various metaphysics, interactions, and histories affect a world.









Caution: Feel free to ignore the below pedantry if you want.



Might not be what you're asking for, but another thing that immediately stands out to me is the most boring but also a crucial part of worldbuilding: formatting.

Forget sharing with others, just for the sake of my own sanity, the moment I start worldbuilding, I focus some time on making it legible and super organized so I can find what I'm looking for easily and add stuff in when ideas strike me.

I Start With One of These For Major Elements of Worldbuilding Like Magic(Font Size Changes Optional)
Then Go Here For Each Major New Type of Magic

Then Further Sub-Headings Can Be Like This For Stuff Like Magical Subtypes
Then Give Us A Specific Form of Magic
-Then:
-Organize:
-Standardized:
-Elements:
-Like:
-This:
Italics For Sub-Notes and Reminders Too!
Repeat, Etc...

Then copy and paste the format, and you can just fill out each blank for every different type of magic or whatever other worldbuilding element you need to add.


For your post, this might look something like:

Magic
Blade
Rarity:
Nature:
Type:
Requirements:
Limitations:
Flaws:
Subtypes
-Sword:
-Spear:
-Etc...

Or somesuch
 

skip.knox

toujours gai, archie
Moderator
There is a magic system for Altearth, but until modern times no one knew what it was. Instead, different people in different times and places had different theories--they had their own systems. This could be as simple as each wielder of magic has their own powers that are unique and not reproducible. In most centuries there were competing and contradictory systems proclaimed without anyone feeling the need to formulate a General Theory. Astrologers had their own ideas about how the stars influenced the world on which they shone, while battlemages had entirely different views of their powers. Consequently, too, different schools evolved, from narrow apprenticeships to something like universities.

I have never introduced anything like the "real" system of magic in any of my stories simply because the people at the time did not and could not know of it. More to the point, they believed they did understand, to whatever level of detail they cared to delve. So, there was neither need nor profit in developing a general understanding.

Moreover, humans had one kind of magic, elves another, dwarves another, orcs yet another, trolls yet another. These forms, each believed to be particular to their own kind; therefore still more reason not to believe there was some unseen underlying unity.

That may sound cohesive, but dang it was a long time in the development. For the most part, yours truly has enough to do to just get through the dang story.
 

Badgerfrog

Dreamer
There is a magic system for Altearth, but until modern times no one knew what it was. Instead, different people in different times and places had different theories--they had their own systems. This could be as simple as each wielder of magic has their own powers that are unique and not reproducible. In most centuries there were competing and contradictory systems proclaimed without anyone feeling the need to formulate a General Theory. Astrologers had their own ideas about how the stars influenced the world on which they shone, while battlemages had entirely different views of their powers. Consequently, too, different schools evolved, from narrow apprenticeships to something like universities.

I have never introduced anything like the "real" system of magic in any of my stories simply because the people at the time did not and could not know of it. More to the point, they believed they did understand, to whatever level of detail they cared to delve. So, there was neither need nor profit in developing a general understanding.

Moreover, humans had one kind of magic, elves another, dwarves another, orcs yet another, trolls yet another. These forms, each believed to be particular to their own kind; therefore still more reason not to believe there was some unseen underlying unity.

That may sound cohesive, but dang it was a long time in the development. For the most part, yours truly has enough to do to just get through the dang story.
Reminds me a bit of some old Forgotten Realms lore, which had the different species all interacting with the Weave in different ways and laid out how different magical traditions were rooted in culture but all connected to some vast unknowable whole. I dunno if they've retconned it though, like they have with lots of cultural stuff over the years.

Seems like a huge chore to keep track of, but also a setting that would allow a lot of different angles for exploring new cultures and traditions.
 

mr_clean

Scribe
Swords are cool tho.

I'm a dude, man.

The first thing I see is that your post is pretty focused on the capabilities and limitations of the magic system itself and somewhat its history.

Purely as a magic system it feels pretty fleshed out, as though you have a good idea in your head of how it would work in real life and why it functions the way it does.

One thing I'd maybe do is "Why" it. Just ask "Why" about every little detail and question the answers you come up with even further until you get really granular. That'll help develop reasons for things to be the way they are in your world and help you flesh them out in a way that allows you to build upon solid foundations.

You definitely don't need to add this all to a story or even write it down(it does help though), so long as you as a writer know the answers, and understand how various metaphysics, interactions, and histories affect a world.









Caution: Feel free to ignore the below pedantry if you want.



Might not be what you're asking for, but another thing that immediately stands out to me is the most boring but also a crucial part of worldbuilding: formatting.

Forget sharing with others, just for the sake of my own sanity, the moment I start worldbuilding, I focus some time on making it legible and super organized so I can find what I'm looking for easily and add stuff in when ideas strike me.

I Start With One of These For Major Elements of Worldbuilding Like Magic(Font Size Changes Optional)
Then Go Here For Each Major New Type of Magic

Then Further Sub-Headings Can Be Like This For Stuff Like Magical Subtypes
Then Give Us A Specific Form of Magic
-Then:
-Organize:
-Standardized:
-Elements:
-Like:
-This:
Italics For Sub-Notes and Reminders Too!
Repeat, Etc...

Then copy and paste the format, and you can just fill out each blank for every different type of magic or whatever other worldbuilding element you need to add.

For your post, this might look something like:

Magic
Blade
Rarity:
Nature:
Type:
Requirements:
Limitations:
Flaws:
Subtypes
-Sword:
-Spear:
-Etc...

Or somesuch
I have an google sheet with percentage chances of all the magics. It'd also laid out much better in the world build doc, but for some reason it didn't work here, and was much more disorganized. Its annoys me.
 

Badgerfrog

Dreamer
I have an google sheet with percentage chances of all the magics. It'd also laid out much better in the world build doc, but for some reason it didn't work here, and was much more disorganized. Its annoys me.
Ohh, yeah makes sense, formatting often doesn't transfer well

Ignore all that then lmao
 
Well, they say "write what you know..."
Sadly most of what I know is video games anime and meme culture, which is why the L33T clan exists in my story.
In a non comedy story they wouldn't work, purely on principal, but since it's a comedy I'm writing for laughs (The true god and their different forms are Deus Ex, Machina and Deus Ex Machina for crying out loud) I think the L33T clan fits.
 

Super Fantasy

Archmage
The closest thing to "magic" in my writings are my favorite game "Total Annihilation" fan fiction I write about the game
I sort of combine magic and distant future science creating a bridge between what is real and what is not/what is not believable

"magic" minerals/elements such as "runite" as well as the idea of computers being sentient and mind uploading
 

mr_clean

Scribe
The closest thing to "magic" in my writings are my favorite game "Total Annihilation" fan fiction I write about the game
I sort of combine magic and distant future science creating a bridge between what is real and what is not/what is not believable

"magic" minerals/elements such as "runite" as well as the idea of computers being sentient and mind uploading
I mean, that feels steampunk/cyberpunk-ish, which is always super awesome, especially if done with a splash of magic.
 

Zilver

Sage
Hi mr. clean (and everybody),

Thanks for this post, it's a great challenge. In fact, it made me realize I have never attempted a summary description of the workings of the magic in my world. And it'd probably good to do so. I'll paste something in a post below.

Reading about your magic system it seems very thought out, nice going. I do agree with something Badgerfrog said: that it is very based in the mechanics. It's detailed in it various forms. It tells us how it works and what it does, but not much about what's behind it.

How did the gods create magic? What were their limitations? What can the gods do and why did they do it like this? How does it effect magic users? Who uses magic nowadays, and what for?
Your description leaves me super curious about the effects this magic has on real life people in your world.
 
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Zilver

Sage
Alright, so my magic 'system'! My story is set on contemporary Earth, in a non-specified country that I'm modeling on countryside Germany, where hidden-away witching clans have practiced their magic since ancient times.

The old world

Magic comes from a parallel, invisible plain called the old world, although some call it the dream of the world. This plain contains the accumulated history, present and potential of all things. Seeds dream of being grown trees, full trees dream of rot and decay, rocks remember when they were fluid lava and the mountains remember when they were seas.

The old world is invisible to laymen, but witches learn to see the old world and reach into it. One's third eye, as it's called, can be trained when young. It is very hard to learn to see the old world once grown up. That is why witching runs in families, transferred from mother to child. (It's also why it's quite a mystery that my MC seems to have been born with the third eye, even though he comes from a family of laymen and doesn't remember anyone ever teaching him.)

The strength of one's 'bond' with the old world is part inate ability, and part training. With practice, one can become a stronger witch - meaning you can more easily draw more magic from the old world. There's also an unexplained gender bias in aptitude for witching. Boys can definitely learn and become witches, but it comes more easily to girls. Which makes it all the more unlikely that my male MC would have somehow picked it up naturally, by himself.

Spells

Witches can call magic from the old world into our own physical world, making trees, branches or anything grow in an instant, calling water from the earth, steering the wind and much more.

Spells generally require three things: an anchor, a heart and the power. The anchor is a physical object in this world, which serves... well, as an anchor. For the magic to hold on to. The power is called from the old world, this is the magic itself that makes the anchor transform. The heart, is the thing that the anchor becomes.
So a tiny seed may be an anchor, and by channeling the power from the old world into it, a witch may make it grow to a tree - which is then called the heart. Or an animal skull could be the anchor, and a witch can call magic to grow a living animal out of it.

The above describes the most simple forms of magic, simply making things grow. Witches may also call the power from the old world to weave more complicated effects. They can take a dog's paw for an anchor and create a hound that is capable of sniffing out anything in the whole world. They can take a snakeskin and call a snake that obeys their commmand and poisons targets in all sorts of magical ways...

The effect of spells is related to the anchor & heart in symphatic ways: dog spells can perform things dogs can generally do, medicinal herb spells emulate and strengthen the effects those plants generally have. But I leave the relationship between type of heart & effect of the spell quite fussy and lose. So in that regard it's a soft magic system.

The righthand path & the unbound path

The witching world these days is controlled by the Avondrood clan - generally referred to as the cult. Their strict laws dictate a particular technique of spell weaving, called the righthand path. On the righthand path, witches use circles that strictly control (and limit) the amount of power that can be drawn from the old world.

This approach contrasts to the unbound path, in which witches just pull out the force of the old world using no limiters or controls. Powerful witches can weave storms that could devastate entire regions, fires that could raze cities. To prevent this from ever happening again, the unbound path is banned and perpetrators are ostracized as heretics. (So my MC, who got his skills without ever having had contact with the witching world, is labeled an heretic first thing.)

And that's about it. The rest of it - history, laws, misunderstandings and new discoveries - are part of the story itself so I won't go into it here.
 
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thatoneguywho-

Troubadour
how did she do that? some kind of place of significance?
going directly into the western highlands of her continent(the region with magic), and having multiple people who she hired use constant, unchanging magic on her for two weeks, and eventually she could use it. once she had some magic she got the rest herself and has already perfected it.
 

mr_clean

Scribe
Hi mr. clean (and everybody),

Thanks for this post, it's a great challenge. In fact, it made me realize I have never attempted a summary description of the workings of the magic in my world. And it'd probably good to do so. I'll paste something in a post below.

Reading about your magic system it seems very thought out, nice going. I do agree with something Badgerfrog said: that it is very based in the mechanics. It's detailed in it various forms. It tells us how it works and what it does, but not much about what's behind it.

How did the gods create magic? What were their limitations? What can the gods do and why did they do it like this? How does it effect magic users? Who uses magic nowadays, and what for?
Your description leaves me super curious about the effects this magic has on real life people in your world.
Ok, I'm gonna paste the lore below, prepare for a text wall:

Version 1: the lore people know​

Roughly 55,000 years ago, before everyone had magic, and the mystic beast were still around, there appeared 12 beings, nine human and three beasts, that wielded strange and powerful abilities. These beings eventually became known as the twelve sages. About 1 year after their first appearance, these sages decided that they should share this magic with the world. And so, with the combined might of their magic, they pulled a star from the sky and, using its power, transmitted a bit of their magic into every human on (planet name). An unfortunate side effect of this spell was it killed all magic beasts on earth, aside from the 3 beast sages (This event came to be known as The Arcanum). Now, they knew that people, being people, wouldn’t always use this magic in ways that benefited society. So, they set up one final, powerful spell that let their souls live on to be incarnated in new, worthy bodies every 5,000 years. This transfer doesn’t change the personality of the new “host,” it merely grants them the magic of the sage that chose them, creating a peacekeeping team to reset the cycle of evil. (They have forgotten the gods, and assume that the world was created by the same force that gave the twelve sages their power)

Version 2: the true lore​

The real story starts at the dawn of the world, 7 very powerful beings, the last of their kind, were traveling through the cosmos looking for a place to call home,when they found a spot that would be hospitable for organic life. After finding an enormous asteroid, these beings began to shape a planet. They decided that they would each create an aspect of this planet. The first shaped the world, creating the mountains, vallies, and deserts. The second created the primal forces that would alter the world, such as fire, air, and water. The third created plants and foliage of all kinds, from the seaweed in the ocean to the pine trees on the tops of mountains. The fourth created the animals of the world, the birds, the fish, the reptiles, and the mammals. The fifth created the humans, and set them apart from the animal with intelligence. The sixth bound this world to logic, such as creating something from nothing is impossible, and what goes up must come down. However, the seventh and final deity was unhappy with these laws. And so, his creations bent these laws. He created beings, modeled after humans, that could fly without the help of wings or wind, and called these beings fey, and they split themselves into two kingdoms, the kingdom of fire, and the kingdom of ice, after their differing powers. Then, He created the giants, towering and powerful, that could bend the earth and sky to their will. And lastly, he created the dragons, the great winged beasts that wielded the elements and could live to be thousands of years old. Now, these beats all had something in common, a strange power that seemed to be the speciality of this god. This power eventually spread to the normal animals, causing them to grow in size and gain an almost human level of intelligence, the smartest of them figuring out speech. However, the other gods were content with this god’s fantastical creations, seeing them as different and new. And so they lived in peace for 100,000 years, the gods giving them new innovations, and receiving worship in return, as they soon found that, without worship, their ability to affect the world grew weaker. However, the seventh god, who was worshiped only by the now called ‘magic’ beasts, grew bored. He had nothing to give the humans, as his strange energy couldn’t be bound to them directly. And so, he began to experiment. First, he experimented on his own magic beasts. He took a fire dragon, and increased the amount of magic in its soul. As a result, it gained the traits of all the other dragon types and the power to take human form. Due to this power, He quickly assumed leadership over all dragons. Next, he found a fey, who had a very peculiar condition, as she seemed to have two personalities in her mind. He gave her the power of both kingdoms, and with it, she united the fay, who had been at war for the last 10,000 years. Finally, he spied a hill giant, spurned by his kind for his incredible intellect, and gave him the power of all giants, as well as the ability to take the form of a mortal. Like the others, he took his place at the throne of his kind. Now, the other gods had seen these things, but were unconcerned, as the magic beasts were his domain. However, the god of magic wasn’t satisfied. After his success with the beast, he had an idea of how to give humans a similar power. And so, he experimented, taking 9 people from the bottom of the cast. Now, he knew he couldn’t directly bind magic to their soul, but he had an idea of something he could do to get around that. By binding their soul to an outside item, then pouring magic into that, he managed to work around the strange block in their soul. First he tried it with weapons. He bound the first to a sword he had infused with the five basic elements, and in doing so allowed the new wielder of the sword to generate and manipulate said elements. Next, he forged a sword from 100 dead souls, and bound it to the second human, letting him call upon those souls for support and strength. Finally, he created a split binding, linking twelve weapons together through magic, then linking the third human’s soul to all of them. The effect was unusual, as it granted the user not only telepathic control of the weapons, but also allowed the human to manipulate the size of any part of the weapon made of metal. Now the god was getting excited, so he changed tactics, deciding that only using weapons limited the kind of magic that humans could use. The next object he tried binding was rings, first binding a ring to the powers of force and gravity, giving them the ability to create barriers and repulsions. Next, bound a ring with two new spells he had concocted, a spell that allowed the user to seal things, rendering them unusable or immoveable in some way, and a spell that turned things back, reflecting them, allowing the user to access these spells. Finally, he imbued a ring with the powers he used to create these objects, the power to imbue, letting the user create items of magic similar to the weapons and rings already made, with the difference being that anyone could use them. Then, he had a flash of inspiration. What if he bound the magic to a removed part of their body, then reattached it? He decided to test this with one eye of three of the humans. With the first, he removed their left eye, and bound the spell of lifeforce, allowing this human to heal the physical wounds of others. To the next, he bound a spell of vigor, allowing them to greatly increase the physical strength, agility, and stamina of those around them. Finally, he bound the last eye to a spell of transference, allowing them to pull the lifeforce from one person into another. He would have kept going like this, eventually giving incredible power to everyone, if he hadn’t been showing off his creation to the other gods. Not only were some angry that he had meddled in their areas, they were also terrified of this power, fearing that, if mortals could solve problems without the gods, they would fade into obscurity, and lose their ability to access the world. So, when the magic god was returning from restoring the humans to (Planet name), they ambushed him, tortured him until he was weakened, then cast him from their realm. as his final act he gave everyone throughout the world magic, allbeit a less potent version. he also cast a spell to make sure that the magic of the sages would be reborn in humans for the rest of time, so that they could have a protector. his death removed the magic from all the magic beasts, and they all went suddenly extinct.
 

thatoneguywho-

Troubadour
Ok, I'm gonna paste the lore below, prepare for a text wall:

Version 1: the lore people know​

Roughly 55,000 years ago, before everyone had magic, and the mystic beast were still around, there appeared 12 beings, nine human and three beasts, that wielded strange and powerful abilities. These beings eventually became known as the twelve sages. About 1 year after their first appearance, these sages decided that they should share this magic with the world. And so, with the combined might of their magic, they pulled a star from the sky and, using its power, transmitted a bit of their magic into every human on (planet name). An unfortunate side effect of this spell was it killed all magic beasts on earth, aside from the 3 beast sages (This event came to be known as The Arcanum). Now, they knew that people, being people, wouldn’t always use this magic in ways that benefited society. So, they set up one final, powerful spell that let their souls live on to be incarnated in new, worthy bodies every 5,000 years. This transfer doesn’t change the personality of the new “host,” it merely grants them the magic of the sage that chose them, creating a peacekeeping team to reset the cycle of evil. (They have forgotten the gods, and assume that the world was created by the same force that gave the twelve sages their power)

Version 2: the true lore​

The real story starts at the dawn of the world, 7 very powerful beings, the last of their kind, were traveling through the cosmos looking for a place to call home,when they found a spot that would be hospitable for organic life. After finding an enormous asteroid, these beings began to shape a planet. They decided that they would each create an aspect of this planet. The first shaped the world, creating the mountains, vallies, and deserts. The second created the primal forces that would alter the world, such as fire, air, and water. The third created plants and foliage of all kinds, from the seaweed in the ocean to the pine trees on the tops of mountains. The fourth created the animals of the world, the birds, the fish, the reptiles, and the mammals. The fifth created the humans, and set them apart from the animal with intelligence. The sixth bound this world to logic, such as creating something from nothing is impossible, and what goes up must come down. However, the seventh and final deity was unhappy with these laws. And so, his creations bent these laws. He created beings, modeled after humans, that could fly without the help of wings or wind, and called these beings fey, and they split themselves into two kingdoms, the kingdom of fire, and the kingdom of ice, after their differing powers. Then, He created the giants, towering and powerful, that could bend the earth and sky to their will. And lastly, he created the dragons, the great winged beasts that wielded the elements and could live to be thousands of years old. Now, these beats all had something in common, a strange power that seemed to be the speciality of this god. This power eventually spread to the normal animals, causing them to grow in size and gain an almost human level of intelligence, the smartest of them figuring out speech. However, the other gods were content with this god’s fantastical creations, seeing them as different and new. And so they lived in peace for 100,000 years, the gods giving them new innovations, and receiving worship in return, as they soon found that, without worship, their ability to affect the world grew weaker. However, the seventh god, who was worshiped only by the now called ‘magic’ beasts, grew bored. He had nothing to give the humans, as his strange energy couldn’t be bound to them directly. And so, he began to experiment. First, he experimented on his own magic beasts. He took a fire dragon, and increased the amount of magic in its soul. As a result, it gained the traits of all the other dragon types and the power to take human form. Due to this power, He quickly assumed leadership over all dragons. Next, he found a fey, who had a very peculiar condition, as she seemed to have two personalities in her mind. He gave her the power of both kingdoms, and with it, she united the fay, who had been at war for the last 10,000 years. Finally, he spied a hill giant, spurned by his kind for his incredible intellect, and gave him the power of all giants, as well as the ability to take the form of a mortal. Like the others, he took his place at the throne of his kind. Now, the other gods had seen these things, but were unconcerned, as the magic beasts were his domain. However, the god of magic wasn’t satisfied. After his success with the beast, he had an idea of how to give humans a similar power. And so, he experimented, taking 9 people from the bottom of the cast. Now, he knew he couldn’t directly bind magic to their soul, but he had an idea of something he could do to get around that. By binding their soul to an outside item, then pouring magic into that, he managed to work around the strange block in their soul. First he tried it with weapons. He bound the first to a sword he had infused with the five basic elements, and in doing so allowed the new wielder of the sword to generate and manipulate said elements. Next, he forged a sword from 100 dead souls, and bound it to the second human, letting him call upon those souls for support and strength. Finally, he created a split binding, linking twelve weapons together through magic, then linking the third human’s soul to all of them. The effect was unusual, as it granted the user not only telepathic control of the weapons, but also allowed the human to manipulate the size of any part of the weapon made of metal. Now the god was getting excited, so he changed tactics, deciding that only using weapons limited the kind of magic that humans could use. The next object he tried binding was rings, first binding a ring to the powers of force and gravity, giving them the ability to create barriers and repulsions. Next, bound a ring with two new spells he had concocted, a spell that allowed the user to seal things, rendering them unusable or immoveable in some way, and a spell that turned things back, reflecting them, allowing the user to access these spells. Finally, he imbued a ring with the powers he used to create these objects, the power to imbue, letting the user create items of magic similar to the weapons and rings already made, with the difference being that anyone could use them. Then, he had a flash of inspiration. What if he bound the magic to a removed part of their body, then reattached it? He decided to test this with one eye of three of the humans. With the first, he removed their left eye, and bound the spell of lifeforce, allowing this human to heal the physical wounds of others. To the next, he bound a spell of vigor, allowing them to greatly increase the physical strength, agility, and stamina of those around them. Finally, he bound the last eye to a spell of transference, allowing them to pull the lifeforce from one person into another. He would have kept going like this, eventually giving incredible power to everyone, if he hadn’t been showing off his creation to the other gods. Not only were some angry that he had meddled in their areas, they were also terrified of this power, fearing that, if mortals could solve problems without the gods, they would fade into obscurity, and lose their ability to access the world. So, when the magic god was returning from restoring the humans to (Planet name), they ambushed him, tortured him until he was weakened, then cast him from their realm. as his final act he gave everyone throughout the world magic, allbeit a less potent version. he also cast a spell to make sure that the magic of the sages would be reborn in humans for the rest of time, so that they could have a protector. his death removed the magic from all the magic beasts, and they all went suddenly extinct.
truly a wall... my divine are just life that developed in a part of space perfect for it, and they only became powerful because magic already existed. I have another old text of mine about them if you'd like to see.
 

mr_clean

Scribe
truly a wall... my divine are just life that developed in a part of space perfect for it, and they only became powerful because magic already existed. I have another old text of mine about them if you'd like to see.
I decided that my "God's" are kinda like superman, the last of a race, but instead of getting powers from a yellow sun, they're just innately cosmically powerful, and can shape reality (until their power became linked to the belief of humans)
 

thatoneguywho-

Troubadour
I decided that my "God's" are kinda like superman, the last of a race, but instead of getting powers from a yellow sun, they're just innately cosmically powerful, and can shape reality (until their power became linked to the belief of humans)
mine are literally the ONLY six of their kind to ever exist. magic is sort of a primal energy in my world, created after a big-bang explosion. they used magic to create the world, but they didn't create magic.
 

mr_clean

Scribe
mine are literally the ONLY six of their kind to ever exist. magic is sort of a primal energy in my world, created after a big-bang explosion. they used magic to create the world, but they didn't create magic.
mine are the only beings who every truly used magic, humans have a workaround version.
 
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