TheCrystallineEntity
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I might check them out. Thanks.
Me too. It's a good story in an interesting setting. I also copied a lot of the paladin concept for my own paladins.I like the Sheepfarmer’s Daughter trilogy.
She's totally a Susie Q though. Lovely story. But the heroine was too perfect.You guys should all read Sheepfarmer's Daughter, by Elizabeth Moon. You'll get that wish, and also a great story
She isn't average because she's the town champ at arcade games? What? By that standard there aren't any average guys in fantasy books either because the farm boys and hobbits are all a little weird about something or another. Most characters have some "exceptional" distinction however small that makes them a little more interesting to write about. I wouldn't say it makes their overall personal experience less....
I know. I'm not articulating myself well because I am seriously flying by the seat of my pants and thinking out loud about all this. It may not be the best example, and it is totally true that there are TONS of characters who are all special in their own way. I guess it's just that she feels a bit like a token? Like Elle wasn't going to be there with them for a lot of the season so they needed a token "girl" to balance stuff out? But Lucus doesn't have to have any special abilities (other than being the token black kid, I guess), and Dustin certainly doesn't have to have any special abilities (other than being supernaturally stupid, perhaps)... lol. It just sort of feel unbalanced to me. Lots of testosterone.
She's totally a Susie Q though. Lovely story. But the heroine was too perfect.
That's fine. You don't have to.I don’t agree.
To the book's credit (sort of), I felt most of the characters weren't very fleshed out.Nope. It was Frank Herbert's Dune. The Princess was very Tolkeinesque. Superficial. Lady Jessica was a mother archetype, not a real person. It just felt like the women were not fleshed out to me. They were set pieces.
The only thing that was fleshed out in Dune was the violence and cruelty. I think Herbert was trying to say that it was the natural state of things, or maybe he just hated his characters, but just about everything in the book felt like a backdrop to Paul Atreides, either to make him brave and powerful, or to justify what he did, so maybe it just happened to be that way because that was the way the main character demanded it.To the book's credit (sort of), I felt most of the characters weren't very fleshed out.
Yeah. I mean it is everywhere still. Look at Stranger Things. A group of five normal boys try to stop an evil force. The only two girls in the show are either super crazy good at video games (better than the boys), or have crazy telepathy skills. The only normal woman is the mom... but there is the old "mom" trope again. lol.
There has to be a reason why it wasn't five average girls trying to stop an evil force... why? What is that reason? Why can't girls be average? Why is the go-to always boys?
Could an average Hobbit woman have set off to Mordor? Would it have changed the story? Was Tolkien worried the Dwarves wouldn't be able to control themselves?
It clicked with me in a major way and I was slightly nibbled on by a plot bunny army approaching on fellbeasts. I'd read the crap out of something like that. What if I beg and sing "The road goes ever on"?It sounds fun
It clicked with me in a major way and I was slightly nibbled on by a plot bunny army approaching on fellbeasts. I'd read the crap out of something like that. What if I beg and sing "The road goes ever on"?
I think what this comes down to is that art has to speak to our individual humanity. Even the best works will miss the mark on someone, mainly because it's impossible to reach everyone.