Christopher Wright
Sage
Yeah, Shadow Fox, I'd like to know why you feel so confident you know how the magic system in my world works better than I do. I think this would be a fascinating topic of conversation.
Saigonnus, Those are some excellent ideas... imagine a pistol that shoots fireballs... or lightning bolts.... of (Dear God!!!) a Disintegration spell. You're quite correct that absolutely ANYTHING is possible.
This depends entirely on the magic and an assumption that it needs to be studied. Magic doesn't have to be mages tossing around flaming projectiles. It can be much more subtle or it can be far more overpowered when compared to a firearm.Why study magic if you can just practice with a firearm?
If this logic is true then why did arms and armor remain on the battlefield for hundreds of years after firearms came into use? It can bring a balance of power between men, that's true. It's the old adage "God created men. Sam Colt made them equal." That type of upheaval can be great for a story.Why study melee weapons if you can simply shoot a foe?
Modern explosive rendered medieval fortifications obsolete. However, forts did not just go poof the minute explosives appeared in warfare. Fortifications have morphed and evolved for centuries to keep pace with advancements in warfare.With firearms, it usually means there is also explosives, feudal systems build around the castle, explosives quickly limit the usefulness of castles, thus castles central society is limited.
Great point.... Again, does this have to be a bad thing for story telling? Furthermore, there are a multitude of reasons people might accept leadership other than protection.When people can get firearms, they can defend themselves, so why allow the noble to control everything needed in society?
I don't see a point here.... Wealth has always equaled power.Merchants earn wealth, wealth becomes power, nobles lose power, economy is more based on goods and services, rather then just food production and supporting the noblemans army.
I didn't like firearms in Fantasy, until I played WOW. Now I am more open to them, but they limit the need for armor, and reduce the power of low level mages.
Why study magic if you can just practice with a firearm?
Why study melee weapons if you can simply shoot a foe?
With firearms, it usually means there is also explosives, feudal systems build around the castle, explosives quickly limit the usefulness of castles, thus castles central society is limited.
When people can get firearms, they can defend themselves, so why allow the noble to control everything needed in society? Merchants earn wealth, wealth becomes power, nobles lose power, economy is more based on goods and services, rather then just food production and supporting the noblemans army.
I'm not going to address most of your other points because they seem to be "why study art if you can study science" type questions, but for castles, how is gunpowder that much different than magick? If a mage can summon fire to blast castle doors, that's going to cause a significant reworking.
I think we are missing a key thing that is frequently found in fantasy that would make castles obsolete – fliers. Having a gryphon or hippogriff or pegasus or zeppelin or magic carpet or whatever can take away a drastic portion of the benefit of a castle. Now, does this mean that you can't have castles? No, it means that you should probably redesign them though.
As far as forts and encampments go, it makes sense that forts would still be walled because it is unlikely the average people that would come across a fort or encampment would be prepared to lay siege to it.
Would it be possible to defeat an enemy with guns without any guns yourself?
In real life guns were a game changer, they made just about everything that came before obsolete. The problem most people have with guns in fantasy is that it would likewise make a lot of the classic fantasy tropes obsolete. Of course, realistically, magic would likewise make everything that come for obsolete even more so then guns, but you don't see readers complaining about that so meh...
I personally don't see a problem with guns in fantasy, but you need to put a lot of thought into it.
Disagreed.
Early 14th century firearms were worthless in comparison to good crossbows. They took an eternity to reload, exploded quite easily (thus maiming the rifleman). It was first in the 17th century, during the Thirty Years War, that the pike became obsolete. The pike was actually more of a game-changer during the late middle ages imho.