Tiberius Victrix
Dreamer
change my mind
Gurkhal is of course speaking of the Greeks in Argos. Maybe Thebes. No? You say the real model is Athens? The one that keeps getting beat in wars? Or was it Hellenistic Greece that the Romans admired after all?
(sorry, couldn't resist extending my own theme (theme: n. a meme shared by only one person) )
I note that the OP has not replied to any of this. Given that he asked us to convince him of something, I suspect ... well, let's call it disinterest.