Trouble with Writing Voice

I think the best way out of this is to have other people read your work and give feedback on it. The more you do this, the more you'll get used to other ways of thinking about your writing. Over time, you'll be able to remember some of these 'voices' (hopefully the best) and apply them when you're reviewing your own work.

Trying to do this all by yourself is hard, although reading books on craft can help, too.

 

I don't know what response you'll get here. It can be hard because most people are busy. For me, a face-to-face fantasy critique group helps a lot. And editors (when you reach that stage).

 

I hate to say so again, but you may find more feedback on a site more geared towards peer review, such as Scribophile (no, I dont own stock in them). Peer review sites tend to require a tit-for-tat type of effort, and with any site, you will get out of it whatever you put in.

As for finding others to help coarse adjust and fine tune your writing effort, you will need a good source of feedback. The best way I know to get this is to offer a trade from someone else also looking for a review.

I will also say, that as you gain more confidence, and more feedback, you will start to get a better feel for this on your own, where as you can do a lot of coarse adjustment on your own.

I have worked hard to cultivate my writing voice over many years, and I am pleased with how it turns out. But I have a great curse, in that my brain omits words and I dont see that they are missing. The most troublesome of these is the word 'Not', which completely changes the meaning of entire thoughts.... 'I can not pick you up at the airport' becomes 'I can pick you up at the airport'..., and I must admit this is very aggravating. I dont trust anything I write to have the words I thought were in it. So....I always send my work out with a lot of hope that there is not too much of that.

But, by the time something I have written lands before someone else's eyes, I have probably edited it about 30 times beginning to end. So I do weed out a lot of it. And its not unusual for me to come back month or years later and re-edit something, and the distance takes that voice away.

In my own writing process, the first effort is just to get words on the page and make it look pretty later. So, its not likely any sentence from my first effort will survive the editing process, and I dont think I am unique at that.

Another option is to find a site like Wattpad, where you can post work, and maybe others will read it and leave comments. But, that counts as publishing, so you may be your own opinions on if that is desirable or not.

Also, the fastest path to feedback is to write short stories, which complete faster and are more likely to pick up casual readers. Entering contests, may also get you faster feedback. Someone has to judge them

 

In my experience, while this is not untrue, it is not often a real concern. Those who are bad at it will not resonate and you will quickly learn how to evaluate the feedback of others.

Also from my own experience, I would say I got much more benefit from reviewing others, than from others reviewing me. Maybe even 10 fold. When reviewing others, you see a lot of good and bad writing, and in doing so, you learn even better how to recognize it in yourself.

 

This is going to sound odd coming from someone who is dyslexic, but I'd suggest reading a lot. Read books from different genres, read novels, series and short stories. Read articles in periodicals like The Economist and the New Scientist. Try to read a little critically, thinking about what it is that makes the story/article readable and comprehensible to you. A lot of this is down to good grammar, but a lot is also down to sentence and paragraph construction. Then write. Write, write, write. Get someone you trust to read what you write and ask for their honest opinion. And then continue writing. Eventually you'll find your own voice and style. Then all you have to do is sell your work...

 

First of all, don't sweat it. A writer's voice is something which develops over time and never stops changing. Stephen King today is very different from Stephen King 40 years ago (though probably still somewhat recognizable to a fan).

The best way to get better at writing (as with anything really) is to write a lot.

A few other things to try:
- Leave time between the first draft and subsequent drafts. How much depends on the writer. The average people give is 2-3 months. Personal confession: I don't leave any time between draft 1 and 2. But then I somehow manage to forget the exact story I've written which means my knowledge of the story doesn't interfere with the edit, since most of that knowledge is not there anymore. My brain is weird...
- Ask others for feedback. Either beta-readers or an editor. For my first editor I got a partial critique from a professional editor. 1 hour of her work, which got me a bunch of pages and showed me a lot of area's to improve. And because it was only 1 hour it was fairly cheap. beta readers are the same, though I would suggest getting more than 1 if you go that route. Beta readers are not professionals, they can tell you what they like and don't like, but perhaps you just found the one person who doesn't like your story. Also, common advise is not to use family for this, since they either tend to think you're wasting your time writing or are too impressed to give you useful feedback.
- Listen to your work when you edit it instead of reading it. Word and google docs have a text to speech feature. Use that to read the text back to you. Because this only reads what is there it will show you everything missing in terms of actual text. Of course, it won't point out plot holes, but at least it helps.

You manage to edit a novel 30 times? I'm already sick and tired of it after 3 passes...

 

There's a lot of truth in this. I've learnt a lot from regularly critiquing other fantasy (and science fiction) writers. Some people don't want to become involved in a critique group because they don't want to waste their time doing this. They miss a lot.

 

True. I wrote my first novel by hand (about 90,000 words) and realised it was bad, so I started my next, which was also bad. The third novel I attempted became my first published novel, which took me seven years from start to publication.

But before moving on, I'd recommend johnny or anyone in this position find someone with experience and knowledge to critique it, even if it's just the first few chapters. It's a learning experience that can save time later.

 

To be honest, I feel I have two good works in me, one fantasy, one SciFi. I still believe in my story, but it got put on a long hold cause of life. But the kids are nearly moved out, so I am getting my peace back So long as I believe in it, I am willing to keep at it. I think I will keep at them till both are written and then only write shorter stuff if I feel like it. But the future is unknown, so....

I am an old pro at rewrites, they don't bother me. But I made a promise that I'd not publish the first part, till part two was written as well. Part two is moving along at a good pace. It is awful....every part of it struggled to get on the page, and I am giving up fixing anything for just putting words on the page. The rewrite of that will be immense I feel, but.... Still believe.

I don't know where I will get feedback on it. All of my original beta readers have long since faded into life as well. I pretty much have to start new. But I don't believe in seeking feedback on a work in progress, so that is a later endeavor. Maybe some of you when I get there.

 

I kind of consider my ability to reread a piece dozens of times over the span of months without getting bored or hating it as a sign of quality, LOL. If I don't find my own piece of writing engaging enough to work on repeatedly, I start to question its merit.

Of course, this could be off base, but before publishing Eve of Snows it was one piece of criteria I considered before sending it to an editor and spending money on it, heh heh.

 

I hear you, but I also know myself. I did short stories for a long while. I really dont prefer them, and I only have so much energy to spend. When I finish the one, I will move on to the next. If that gets done, we'll see. I might be retired by then

 

I am not bored of it yet, just unhappy that I write slowly. I have a few I dont like. Oddly, the one I dislike the most, got the most attention when it was published. And my two best stories collect nothing but rejections. Go figure....

 

It's not so much that I dislike reading it, it's that I dislike working on it. It's how my brain works. I don't like doing something I feel I've already done. I have trouble rewriting a section because my mind keeps going back to what I wrote before and try to use parts of that in the rewrite. Even if it takes a lot more time my brain keeps telling me it will be faster.

As such, I can edit a couple of times, as long as I tell myself I focus on something different in each pass. But doing two similar polishing passes on the same text becomes tough.

I know it's very different for different people, which makes it very hard to give any definitive rule on how often you should or shouldn't do edits. As said, it's just how my brain behaves