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Discussion in 'Film & Television' started by Anders Ämting, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. Mindfire

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    Anyone else think it's a little ironic that the film rights for X-men are currently owned by FOX? I probably shouldn't say more due to the ban on politics, but just let that sink in for a moment.
     
  2. Nah. I recall it as being pretty okay. It had its goofy moments, I suppose, but I don't think I found anything genuinely bad about it. If nothing else, I liked it a lot better than Last Stand.
     
  3. WyrdMystic

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    FOX have a habit of axing shows I like and keeping ones I don't - not politics, just blind hatred ;)

    New Line Cinema have some marvel characters and so do Lionsgate - makes you wonder if Disney will buy them back - maybe swap for distribution rights or something. Or even sell of some Star Wars characters - Obi Won - Origins? Yoda's First Class?
     
  4. Mindfire

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    HA! They'd never do that. Besides, all they really have to do is wait until the film rights expire, then they'll revert to Marvel anyway. Blade should be up soon, and they've gotten Daredevil back I think.
     
  5. Steerpike

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    Not political. Totally different from the news division, and it doesn't take much of a look at their overall TV programming and movies to see there is no shared political ideology.
     
  6. Mindfire

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    20th Century Fox and Fox News are not related? Oh, well that kills the irony then.
     
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  7. Steerpike

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    They're both owned by News Corp. but they operate independently. Have you ever seen Family Guy or American Dad? They both bash conservatives generally and even Fox News specifically all the time. There's no crossover of control there. Except for the actual Fox News channel, News Corp. subsidiaries put out all kinds of liberal stuff.
     
  8. Mindfire

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    A house divided... makes lots of money? o_O
     
  9. Steerpike

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    Yeah, that's the name of the game. Murdoch himself contributes to Dems as well as GOPers, so I'm not even sure what his personal political views are. But he made FOX News into the most successful cable news channel in the country.
     
  10. WyrdMystic

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    Over here News Corp switch their political alliance with the wind. It's more a capitalist thing than a politics thing. I think half their papers are Labour and the other half conservative.

    Anyway, enough politics. First Class was rubbish - Last Stand was diabolical. So I guess, side by side, First Class looks like a classic. On it's own though - urgh.
     
  11. Sheriff Woody

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    I actually work for FOX (occasionally), so I feel I can say they really, truly suck.
     
  12. JCFarnham

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    I was interested. Then I heard they were dumping canon material...

    I don't think that can end well, and by gosh I don't want another damn reboot/parallel universe mash up with younger actors. If they want to do anything it's simple: The characters from the original trilogy have aged some what (or are dead for those actors who don't wish to touch the franchise with a barge pole), from then on you can follow who ever you damn well want.

    All in all Disneys Marvel films were alright. One thing alone annoyed me about them. They didn't stand alone. Everything was a damn set up for the next movie. I'd bet money on the next Avengers being over hyped and a massive let down... if I didn't have faith in the guy writing it (I mean come on. That's why that movie was great. They got a properly decent writer in...)

    Disney tend not to care about the franchise further than the money it'll make them. If they find Jar Jar toys are selling, then they'll insert him back in. The same goes for anything else. It may be an alright story with good action scene, and fairly cool music, but then again it'll be all about selling the toys.

    Mark my words, people. Star Wars technology will soon have more sellable functions on it than you can shake a stick at (or some god awful metaphor to that effect).

    That being said I'm not at all doom and gloom. Its not out yet, not by a long shot. They could lose funding, win it back, bring on a fabulous writer/director... so much could happen in the mean time, it's not worth worrying about.

    We should enjoy these films for what they are, separately. If they're good, they're good (and yes, that means even if they don't quite stand up to the last installment. Example: I wasn't in love with First Class, but I enjoyed it).
     
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  13. Jess A

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    Jar Jar Binx or whatever his name is makes my eyes and ears bleed.
     
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  14. Endymion

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    Are you serious? Avengers great? X-men first class terrible? How could you prefer Avengers to X-men?!
    Please tell me why (I am really curious).
     
  15. Mickey, I AM your father! *Darth Vader breathing sound*
     
  16. Well, they're dumping the Expanded Universe, anyway, but I don't really mind, because I always considered the EU to be basically glorified fanfiction. (Don't get me wrong, I liked some of the books and games, but since Lucas himself didn't give a damn about them, I don't see how we can expect Disney to do so.)

    From what little we have been told from Disney's side, it sounds like they are making the new storyline from scatch.

    I'm personally hoping for a Star Wars movie set in a totally different era, with completely new characters. I'm not sure Disney has the guts to let go of the established characters, but I think I could really like a completely fresh start. Seriously, give us Jim Spacehunter, Jedi Prince of Corellia, or something. Whatever. Star Wars is one of the few settings where you can actually do that since nothing ever really changes. As long as it has weird aliens, lightsaber fights, the Force, droids and space battles it will still be Star Wars.

    At any rate, I don't really want to see a continuation on the OT were some new intergalactic conflict breaks out right after Team Skywalker managed to fix the last one. It would be nice of the new republic got at least a few centuries of relative peace, considering the old one lasted for a thousand years.

    I don't know... I think the Iron Man movies work just fine on their own, as does the Hulk movie. The only ones I thought felt like they were only made to set up Avengers were Captain America and Thor, and both of them were pretty good anyway.
     
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  17. Twook00

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    I have two small kids, so I watch a lot of Disney channel. So far, I've already seen cameos of Yoda, R2-D2, and C-3PO. Very strange seeing them out of context like that. Not sure I like it.
     
  18. WyrdMystic

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    Because I love the x-men, they were the first comics I read, first super hero cartoons I watched, and first class was awful, not as awful as last stand, but still awful. If only they could turn back time and start from the end of X2 again. Also, Avengers was awesome too.

    Oh No! Time for a mouskertool. Everyone say...OH TOODLES!
     
  19. Which tool would work best against the forces of the Sith lords?

    This rope?

    This piece of paper?

    Or this lightsaber?
     
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  20. WyrdMystic

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    The rope could hang a sith Lord, but he could cut it with his force lightning.

    The piece of paper could be used to write a strongly worded letter to the Jedi Council, but they were wiped out years ago. that won't work.

    The lightsaber could be used in a fight, but I haven't had my Jedi training yet.

    How about....A MYSTERY MOUSEKERTOOL?

    What will the tool be today?

    A THERMAL DETONATOR!
     
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