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Mr. M. L.

Troubadour
Is that good is subjective, or that what each individual believes to be good subjective? I for one believe that there is a thing as objective truth and therefore objective good. Whether or not we as individuals truly know what those are is another thing entirely.
 

pmmg

Myth Weaver
Subjective truth is subjective.

What is not subjective is that you have no hope...of ever winning this game. Its already been won by the dragon.
 

Mr. M. L.

Troubadour
Which truth is the objective one?
I'd say the most objective truth that we can understand is that physical thing exist. If one believes otherwise I challenge that person to convince themselves that a wall in a particular building doesn't exist and then walk through it.
 

Redfrogcrab

Troubadour
I'd say the most objective truth that we can understand is that physical thing exist. If one believes otherwise I challenge that person to convince themselves that a wall in a particular building doesn't exist and then walk through it.
A funny quirk of reality is that it's not experienced the same way as everyone, everyone experiences reality in a slightly different way because we, ourselves, are all unique, therefore, there is truly no objectivity in reality except for your experiences within it
 

pmmg

Myth Weaver
A blind man grabs an elephant by the trunk and say, 'Oh, elephants are like snakes.'

His subjective reality is that he is right, but the greater truth of the elephant persists even though he has not yet experienced it. You present a school of thought that will chase its own tale forever. If you think you have it figured out, be prepared to find you don't. It may be that we ourselves are poor vehicles to understand the true nature of things, that does not make them untrue.
 

Mr. M. L.

Troubadour
A blind man grabs an elephant by the trunk and say, 'Oh, elephants are like snakes.'

His subjective reality is that he is right, but the greater truth of the elephant persists even though he has not yet experienced it. You present a school of thought that will chase its own tale forever. If you think you have it figured out, be prepared to find you don't. It may be that we ourselves are poor vehicles to understand the true nature of things, that does not make them untrue.
Dragon I couldn't have said it better. I was working on a reply saying something similar but unfortunately in more vague terms.
My hat is off to you and, in this at least, I concede your win.
 
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