Throwing in a scene "just for fun"

I'm with you on asking this question.

I used to be a firm believer in, "If it doesn't advance the plot, it must go!" Now, I'm not so sure.

 

There's nothing wrong with including a character-building scene. Even character-building chapters are fine.* Whether it fits for you in this situation will depend somewhat on your general pacing for the whole thing and for the section of scenes/chapters nearest to it.

*Edit: I mean, scenes/chapters whose purpose is primarily character-building rather than moving the plot forward.

 

I'm also in the camp that loves these sorts of scenes. Yes, there should be a purpose to every scene, but I really think that backstory, relationship-building, and slowing the pace are all valid story purposes.

If you're still questioning it--or better, if you've written it and it feels too empty--I might suggest that you touch on one point of conflict, or raise one question for the reader. Ideally, it would be a conflict or question that ties into the story later, even if it's not central to the plot.

In my opinion, there are goals beside delivering action and plot conclusion. Helping the reader form emotional attachments is one of them. Making the world and the characters seem real and living is another.

 

I think a way to make the scene relevant is to reference it or conversations that are discussed later in the story. Reuse some dialogue, creating a sort of motif of repetition (there is a term for this in writing but it escapes me at the current time) if you want. Just make sure you can tie it together somewhere.

 

If it's entertaining I don't see the harm. I think the amount of time spent having to read it should be taken into consideration of course.

 

Backstory is just as important as plot, as is showing lighter and darker sides of a character or situation. It gives more food for thought and makes the world more realistic. Not every moment in our lives advances OUR "plot", but it still happened and it still had meaning. :3

 

Allow me to take the "contra" position on this one.

It sounds to me like the scene has little value in the scheme of your work. They had made their decision on what they want to do next and now are just mucking about. As a reader I don't enjoy mucking about scenes. I now want to see them implement the decision they have made.

I think scenes need a purpose to do one of three things, advance the plot, build character or increase tension.

Without having read the work or the scene it is hard to say with certainty, but I would lean towards cutting it out.

 

I am ALL for scenes that are just "fun" or "interesting" without necessarily having to move the plot forward. Stories are meant to be entertaining, after all. Most of my favorite stories have scenes like that. I personally hate stories that are constantly rushing through the plot without ever taking a moment to breathe. I know a lot of people do like those kinds of always fast paced plot driven stories, but there are plenty of people who don't. Don't be afraid to cater to a different reader audience than the one most general writing advice is always pushing.

 

Hi,

I would say keep it. As a reader I want to know the charcters. I want to feel them and the way they interact with one another. I assume most of the world building is done by this point, but I also like to get an indepth experience of the world. You can go too far of course. I'm often accused of it in my writing - and yes perhaps eight pages devoted to describing a cabin might have been a little too much - but I still want some. My thought would be that it depends on many things including the genre - what will fly in epic fantasy may not soar so well in urban fantasy. But if it adds to the characters and the world, and perhaps a little to the plot, keep it. If it takes away from the pace of the book and you are writing a fast paced book, lose it.

You might also consider that it could add to the drama / pathos of the conclusion. Not knowing your book, if they're going into the final battle, then this would be a way of raising the stakes as they know that some of them may not be returning from it. The celebratory drink before the battle.

Cheers, Greg.

 

I would include it. Scenes like this give characters depth.

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I see nothing wrong with it. I think that even in plot driven stories, there needs to be a moment where we can sit down and get to know the characters some more. It adds more to the story than one might think. It brings the characters to life and gives them a sense of realism.