Maker of Things Not Kings
Maester
Hey Scribes,
I'm finding myself with a problem I can't seem to overcome on my own. If this is in your wheelhouse, some well rounded advice would be appreciated! I'm going to give you as much info as I can, so I apologize here if this run long.
I'm currently working on three books. All three are fantasy, the first two we'll label adult/epic fantasy and the one I began most recently is on the YA spectrum. The two adult/epic fantasy books I've been working on for the last few years, whereas the idea for the YA book came two months ago and I wrote the first two chapters of it in two or three days.
I'm lucky to have five well-read (in the genre), brutally honest alpha readers who I count on for early feedback. Recently, I gave them the first four chapters of the YA book and, in each case, heard some variation of this from each of them:
"I don't know what it is, but that YA book is alive and I want to read more. I want to see what happens to the MC next. To see where her story goes."
I should add that each of them also stated, " I'm not a fan of YA for the most part, but. . ."
OK. So here's the dilemma. I KNEW the moment I got their feedback that they were right. The YA story is alive. It feels that way every time I sit down to write. I'm fine with that ( I happen to love YA fantasy, just not the abundance of teen romance and endless angst that have become stock fodder) and I intend to keep writing it forward, to be sure.
What it's made clear is a problem I've had for some months now with my two books.
Those two are well plotted and thought out. Worlds have been created beyond what I probably need or could ever use in the books. I'm attached to them. In comparison, I had one, thin little idea for that YA book when I began it. The MC's name. That's it. So when an alpha reader says, "Oh and then the thing with her art teacher and the painting? I can't wait to see where you take that."
Great, right? Except there is no plan for the art teacher as of yet. There was no outline. No ending. No cast of characters. They've all appeared as needed while I wrote. To be sure, a good deal more has appeared as I wrote those earl chapters but it's all been pantsing since I jotted down the first words, Names are funny things, aren’t they?
(I'll add here that the YA book is in first person POV where the other two have always been written in limited third)
I feel like I cannot work on the older books without getting bogged down wanting to be sure everything on the page that is in my head gets included. That I check every box and add every world detail. Setting up later events and mentioning certain backstory or important hints. I find that, when I sit down to write it, I'm over analyzing each paragraph every time. I'm crafting. Not writing. And that seems to deaden everything out of the gate. The more I rework, the worse it gets.
There's no freedom like I feel with the YA project to just write forward as it comes to me. And I think that's why the YA story has that movement. This is often true of my short stories. For first drafts, I just write and see where it goes. I may have one idea but no real plot or outline. I know I'm a pantser but I have worked really hard to corral some of that and stick to an outline more often, especially for longer projects.
It feels like I'm trying to skip the free write/first draft on the older books and polish it into something closer to a finished edit as I go whereas, with the YA book, I feel no such need. I simply write. ( I DO make a cursory editing pass before giving it to my readers.)
So how, fellow Scribes, can I find my way back to that groove of writing without bogging down in details and perfection on a story/world I feel I already know so well? I KNOW it's making things stiff and over-worked! It's become a problem that I want to correct before I go any further. I can't seem to shut off my brain and so much of those two worlds is so ingrained in there that I cannot escape it when I write.
I suppose the good news is I have one project that feels easy and alive, but it is disheartening to feel these older, more dear-to-me projects have stalled and begun to feel like I'm trying to move them through slow-consuming quicksand.
I am also wondering about voice and POV. My MC in the YA book had a strong voice from the first paragraph. She's been easy to write. Her school, her mom, the teachers, office workers, art museum curators. All simple to see through her eyes and in her narrative voice. Could it be that I am just not comfortable with a long running, third person narrative voice or that I am trying too hard to constrain it to sound. . .???? Any advice there?
Thank you for anything you have to offer.
Maker
I'm finding myself with a problem I can't seem to overcome on my own. If this is in your wheelhouse, some well rounded advice would be appreciated! I'm going to give you as much info as I can, so I apologize here if this run long.
I'm currently working on three books. All three are fantasy, the first two we'll label adult/epic fantasy and the one I began most recently is on the YA spectrum. The two adult/epic fantasy books I've been working on for the last few years, whereas the idea for the YA book came two months ago and I wrote the first two chapters of it in two or three days.
I'm lucky to have five well-read (in the genre), brutally honest alpha readers who I count on for early feedback. Recently, I gave them the first four chapters of the YA book and, in each case, heard some variation of this from each of them:
"I don't know what it is, but that YA book is alive and I want to read more. I want to see what happens to the MC next. To see where her story goes."
I should add that each of them also stated, " I'm not a fan of YA for the most part, but. . ."
OK. So here's the dilemma. I KNEW the moment I got their feedback that they were right. The YA story is alive. It feels that way every time I sit down to write. I'm fine with that ( I happen to love YA fantasy, just not the abundance of teen romance and endless angst that have become stock fodder) and I intend to keep writing it forward, to be sure.
What it's made clear is a problem I've had for some months now with my two books.
Those two are well plotted and thought out. Worlds have been created beyond what I probably need or could ever use in the books. I'm attached to them. In comparison, I had one, thin little idea for that YA book when I began it. The MC's name. That's it. So when an alpha reader says, "Oh and then the thing with her art teacher and the painting? I can't wait to see where you take that."
Great, right? Except there is no plan for the art teacher as of yet. There was no outline. No ending. No cast of characters. They've all appeared as needed while I wrote. To be sure, a good deal more has appeared as I wrote those earl chapters but it's all been pantsing since I jotted down the first words, Names are funny things, aren’t they?
(I'll add here that the YA book is in first person POV where the other two have always been written in limited third)
I feel like I cannot work on the older books without getting bogged down wanting to be sure everything on the page that is in my head gets included. That I check every box and add every world detail. Setting up later events and mentioning certain backstory or important hints. I find that, when I sit down to write it, I'm over analyzing each paragraph every time. I'm crafting. Not writing. And that seems to deaden everything out of the gate. The more I rework, the worse it gets.
There's no freedom like I feel with the YA project to just write forward as it comes to me. And I think that's why the YA story has that movement. This is often true of my short stories. For first drafts, I just write and see where it goes. I may have one idea but no real plot or outline. I know I'm a pantser but I have worked really hard to corral some of that and stick to an outline more often, especially for longer projects.
It feels like I'm trying to skip the free write/first draft on the older books and polish it into something closer to a finished edit as I go whereas, with the YA book, I feel no such need. I simply write. ( I DO make a cursory editing pass before giving it to my readers.)
So how, fellow Scribes, can I find my way back to that groove of writing without bogging down in details and perfection on a story/world I feel I already know so well? I KNOW it's making things stiff and over-worked! It's become a problem that I want to correct before I go any further. I can't seem to shut off my brain and so much of those two worlds is so ingrained in there that I cannot escape it when I write.
I suppose the good news is I have one project that feels easy and alive, but it is disheartening to feel these older, more dear-to-me projects have stalled and begun to feel like I'm trying to move them through slow-consuming quicksand.
I am also wondering about voice and POV. My MC in the YA book had a strong voice from the first paragraph. She's been easy to write. Her school, her mom, the teachers, office workers, art museum curators. All simple to see through her eyes and in her narrative voice. Could it be that I am just not comfortable with a long running, third person narrative voice or that I am trying too hard to constrain it to sound. . .???? Any advice there?
Thank you for anything you have to offer.
Maker