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Favorite Moment/Scene in Fantasy/Sci-Fi Novel/Movie

Gotta be Buffy. The Buffy, the defining story, "Surprise"/"Innocence", aka "Fallen Angel."

The episode overall is a legend for its plot twist and how it pretty much embodied the whole show. But the thing I most adore is the buildup we start seeing as Part 2 gathers steam.
  • Angel's made his change but nobody else knows it...
  • Buffy has been crippled for the moment by Angel telling the right lies...
  • Jenny Calendar has her own agenda, oops...
  • Giles has beaten his head in (okay, not literally) against the brick wall of his archives trying to find a way to stop the Judge (when a world-destroying demon is your B-story, you might be a Whedon team)...
  • Willow's knowledge is just as useless, plus she's in shock from what Xander's done behind her back...
  • then Xander, poor comic-relief Xander, says "I'm having an idea. Now I'm having a plan," and with nobody else left you know that's just crazy enough to work...

and that's when the lights go out. ("Now I'm having a wiggins.")

Thirty seconds later Willow is walking ohhh so slowly across the room toward the thing she still thinks is Angel, and we all know that no matter how this resolves everything we know about the show is seconds from exploding.

--Okay, I get a little worked up about that. But that's what Joss took all that effort to do to us, and it does show.
 
Quick question for those that were adults during Star Wars the first time. Did the "Darth Vader" meaning "Dark Father" thing clue anybody in?

From what I understand, that was coincidental with respect to his identity as Luke’s father, an idea that occurred later.

Yeah, it's most likely just an evil-sounding name.

Though, I heard an interesting theory that the Sith names were an ominous word minus the last two letters in his true name. Darth Vader would thus mean "Dark Invader" as opposed to Dark Father. Though, the theory kinda falls appart with Maul and Tyranus.

...Man, Darth Tyranus was a silly name. No wonder Dooku didn't use it much.

Anyway, I'd say Vader is far more likely to be derived from "invader" than "father."

Not until I was much older. I was just a kid when they first came out.

I don't remember anyone really talking about associations like that until years later. But, like I said, I was only a young boy. Maybe some people more senior could comment on this from an adult perspective at the time.

As a general rule, "cluing people in" is a lot harder than you'd think. In my experience, you have to make it very obvious before your average person catches on.
 

MFreako

Troubadour
Somebody mentioned Inception earlier. Gotta love the "Dream Is Collpasing" scene. The music in that part gives me the shivers.
 

Legendary Sidekick

The HAM'ster
Moderator
"No. I am your father."
My 3 year old and I played with popsicles over the summer. We'd parry each other's attacks, she'd say "You killed my father!" I'd say, "No. I am your father." She'd reply, "NOOOOO!"

Someday, she'll know that's not Buzz Lightyear and Zerg.



I can't 1-up Ben's best sic-fi moment, so I need to go with fantasy: Black Knight battle, Holy Grail.
 

SeverinR

Vala
Sci-fi: Book of Eli-the final twist and how he was guided to where he ended up. hoping they make a Book of Solara.

occult: 6th sense; the ring dropping to the floor moment of you realize.

Ladyhawke:
"Remember...Walk on the left side..."
Goliath prancing in the cathedral. Spawned my love of the Fresian.
The trick move to kill the captain of the guard was great, don't know that it would actually work though.

How to train your dragon:


How to Train Your Dragon (2010) - Memorable quotes
How to Train Your Dragon (2010) - Memorable quotes

Favorite scene was when Toothless looks back to see if he caught Astrid

Zombieland:
the rules
Zombie kills of the week
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Who's Bill Murray?
I've never hit a kid before. I mean, that's like asking who Gandhi is.
Who's Gandhi?
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Oh, it's nice to find someone else who liked Ladyhawke.

Oh, it was only the best live fantasy movie to come out in maybe a 15-year drought. (And despite being just when Star Wars and D&D made everyone want to do swords too, and anime was getting good, and...)
 
Actually, Ladyhawke's got a lot to love, from music to concept to all those nifty lines Matthew Broderick the thief gets to steal scenes with. It's just odd that for such a long time, when everyone was wanting to get fantasy on film, almost nobody else got it right.
 

SeverinR

Vala
Actually, Ladyhawke's got a lot to love, from music to concept to all those nifty lines Matthew Broderick the thief gets to steal scenes with. It's just odd that for such a long time, when everyone was wanting to get fantasy on film, almost nobody else got it right.

I don't think the right people wanted to make good fantasy. I think most wanted to make a few dollars and fake a fantasy movie. Viewers didn't need alot of special effects back then, but they did expect a good script, good acting, and a believable setting.
If they truly wanted to make a good fantasy film, they had alot of good fantasy novels with people that loved fantasy to guide them. Instead they got people that wanted to be in a movie and churned out crap.
 

JayEmma

Acolyte
The best scenes are the ones that need no words but express so much. Something I strive for in my writings

 
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SeverinR

Vala
That is just my opinion.
I also think(ie imho) the recent draught of good original movies(in any genre) is similar, they want to cash in on cookie cutter movies, not daring to strike out on their own.
That is why when I saw The Hobbit, most of the previews were about post appocolype Earth and zombies. Cookie cutter follow the leader movies.
 
I'm not sure we're running low (or lower ;)) on good movies, just on unadapted ideas --that is, story concepts created in Hollywood rather than other mediums. It can be irritating, but there's still stuff to see.

Back to the "Ladyhawke decades", here's a question: not many live filmmakers made good fantasy then. But was there much live SF that worked, if we factor out the existing Star Wars and Star Trek franchises? Does that still leave enough decent science fiction to make the case that Hollywood was more comfortable with it? (Or just thought the Star Wars craze applied to it better?)
 

Sparkie

Auror
Back to the "Ladyhawke decades", here's a question: not many live filmmakers made good fantasy then. But was there much live SF that worked, if we factor out the existing Star Wars and Star Trek franchises? Does that still leave enough decent science fiction to make the case that Hollywood was more comfortable with it? (Or just thought the Star Wars craze applied to it better?)

That's a terrific question. I don't feel qualified to answer it, but I will say this: Star Wars was a game changer. Nothing was the same in Hollywood after that movie's release in 1977. Not only did it break all kinds of box office records, it showed the moviemaking elite that anything really was possible within the medium after all.

In keeping with this thread's theme, I feel that there is one particular moment that defines the 'anything is possible' attitude. The cantina scene. Until that moment, the viewer would have seen a short space battle, Darth Vader, two droid flunkies, Jawas, Sand People, an old Jedi Knight, a light saber, and a hovercraft of sorts. These things are entertaining, but when the viewer follows Luke and Obi-Wan into the cantina he/she realizes they've only scratched the surface of what the story has to offer.

After the release of Star Wars there was, of course, a surge of films and shows in the following decade that tried to reap the benefits of the newfound popularity of Sci-Fi and Fantasy. I can't speak for how comfortable Hollywood was with those genres, but I've seen enough bad movies from that era (and seen and read enough interviews with the makers of those movies) to know that there were far too many times when a producer or executive would tell a writer pitching a story idea or script that had nothing to do with Fantasy or Sci-Fi to "Put it in space," or "Put it in the future" or "Put swords in it." That sort of thing doesn't make for good filmmaking, and it isn't fair to fans of the genres either.

Sorry for the rant. Again, that's a good question wordwalker. Hope I didn't confuse the issue too much.
 
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