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GoT Season Five [NO SPOILERS, PLEASE]

Discussion in 'Film & Television' started by Legendary Sidekick, Apr 12, 2015.

  1. Mindfire

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    NO. NO. NO. End it at seven. What happened to seven kingdoms, seven books, seven seasons? Seven is such a perfect number to stop at! Why would you- ARRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!! QUIT MESSING WITH MY OCD DANGIT!!!
     
  2. Manalodia

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    Apparently Jon Snow is really dead from what I've read. The show is a pooper. Wasn't he supposed to die for a little in the books or die at the end because he was, in fact the "song of ice and fire" being from both bloodlines? Might be speculation from his book readers, but that really sucks if the show is taking that course (and possibly the books themselves).

    I would like to add onto the "blue laws" as I think that is pretty relevant now.

    Even though Christian, the Christian churches are quite destitute in following the tenants of the faith. They are more secular than anything and the Bible is not regarded as the basis of what they stand for. A very small few actually practice according the way Jesus and the apostles, while they lived and a little after, instructed. I don't think anyone can argue that politics implanted itself and divided it even more.
    If anyone has watched conservative news or read up religious activities, the pope has actually said America NEEDS to officially mandate Sunday observance as a time for families to be together. A female politician had said the same and of course mainstream Christianity agrees. Sounds good for them, no? Well, to me, it's not.

    History dictates otherwise (and I will leave out biblical prophecy pointing to the same thing). There are other faiths and Christian groups that do not worship on the "venerable day of the sun". That is sun worship not at first forced on Christians and Jews by Constantine since he was a worshiper of Mithraism. There is no text supporting the holy day being moved by Christ from the seventh day to the first. The Roman Church says it did it as a sign of its own power and the Protestants observing it unwittingly acknowledge that power in practice.

    There are those that are not religious that will not take kindly to being forced to attend church on Sunday. What has happened each time a religious group has come to close to power, especially when combined or enforced by the secular powers? Inquisition from both Catholic and Protestants, abuse of authority, doctrine created to rob the people, wars. These are not the fruits of faith in general, these are prime opportunities for selfish human nature to manifest themselves. We see the same thing happen when governments form and we in the US can use our own for an example. It's entirely corrupt and becoming fascist.

    Pope Francis is well received by even secular perspective for his approach to homosexuality (though not fully supportive) and other views, but it is his progress in politics and religious world that concerns me. He has made great strides in both; appearing at the UN multiple times, meeting with world leaders, scheduled to appear before Congress for the first time in history as well as an ecumenical meeting in September, bringing together the world religions on peace and unity.

    Again, sounds wonderful accept the old saying, "Rome never changes" pops in my head. That same institution has not given up any of the doctrine that led it to become the oppressive power it was for over 1200 years. State and religion do not mix in any regard from the examples history has shown us. The mainstream Protestant churches want to rejoin the RCC and putting aside doctrine issues, that makes two political groups one in that regard. With America in its weakest state in government and (IMO) moral areas, what prime opportunity would this be to pass up for a group that has always sought control (both even from the time of England under Elizabeth).

    The blue laws are still on the books for a reason and history repeats itself. Positives were always put forth by Mao, Hitler and other dictators before the fruits of their work were apparent. We are moving closer to a religious-political governance. As I said in the beginning, my beliefs pointed to these things happening in this time, but just looking at the past and what led up to each dark time in human history, we are at the fringe of this terrible repetition.

    I think fantasy has a lot to do with my being observant of such things. I have an imagination, yes, but I always wanted to know where these stories took their basis from. Many were metaphors for historical events or just human nature in general and its sad pattern. Everything has truth to it and if we are asked will we too in our time fall into such a pattern when people are more herded than free-thinking, what course are we headed for?
     
  3. SeverinR

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    "Melisandre, Do you want (re)build a Snow-man? He don't have to be a Crow-man. He can be a No(ble) man."
     
  4. teacup

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    I still think Jon will be back. I think everyone on the show saying he's dead are lying or actually telling the truth that he is dead right now, but leaving out that he comes back.
     
  5. Mindfire

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    Omg, are you Adventist? I ask because I am, and what you're talking about sounds very familiar.

    As for Jon Snow, I'm thinking Melisandre will bring him back somehow. Her arrival at Castle Black at the end of the season was very... convenient.
     
  6. Legendary Sidekick

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    "7's the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 dwarves. 7, man, that's the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea. It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office. 'Cause you're ****in' fired!"
    [SUB]~The Hitchhiker (from There's Something About Mary)[/SUB]
     
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  7. Mindfire

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    o_O
    Ummmmmmmm...
     
  8. X Equestris

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    I think the latter is the case. He's dead right now. Beric Dondarrion was also dead, multiple times, until Thoros brought him back to life. And the fact that the show has Melisandre returning to the Wall before the season's end is rather suspicious, especially considering how she never left the Wall in the books. That seems to indicate to me that she has an important role to play at the Wall, quite likely resurrecting Jon.
     
  9. T.Allen.Smith

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    ...and Thoros of Myrr & Melisandre both serve Rallos, the god of light.

    Half of the purpose behind Baeric & Thoros is foreshadowing. The rest of the answer lies in the Night's Watch oath.
     
  10. SeverinR

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    Game of thrones sets record number of Emmy wins at 12.
    I think they are way up there in nominations.

    Cinematically this was a great year, the story line was a bit slow.
     
  11. Legendary Sidekick

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    Yeah, I could see season 4 making big wins, but this season was… well, it did have its best moments in episodes 8-10. That may have helped.
     
  12. SeverinR

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    Thinking of doing Tywin Lannister costume post father's day.
    Where was he shot? (T.V, I believe in the book he is shot just above the groin.)

    The video is dark(and full of terrors) so it's hard to see on the computer. Might have to watch on tv.

    I would change it to his (purple) wedding tunic place bolts in the right place and hang a "Happy father's day" card from the neck. [I have been asked to go to Comic con next year. So I need to start soon.]
    Was thinking of doing a white walker, but the prosthetics would be very demanding.

    https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/twin-lannister.jpg?w=446&h=299&crop=1

    From this pic, it looks like gut shot center, upper left chest for second. (Assuming first shot was slow fatal and second hit the lung and he died quickly.)
     
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  13. Stephyn Blackwood

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    Just want to raise a little point here;


    Would just like to raise the point that Stannis is most-likely not dead. (Maybe that's just me being a Stannis the Mannis fan-boy in denial) But when has the show ever been known to shy away from showing the death of characters? Why did they not show Brienne slashing his throat/stabbing him the chest/taking off his head? Because she didn't kill him.

    Want to know how I came to the conclusion? Stannis' final words to her were: "Go on, do your duty."
    What is Brienne's duty? It's to find and protect Sansa is it not? And Brienne, by messing about with killing Stannis in the woods is wasting valuable time that could be used to save Sansa.
    So I don't think that Stannis is actually dead. Defeated, maybe. Demoralised, probably. But dead? Nope.

    The theory is not originally mine, it was taken from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks9VeB5vI70
     
  14. SeverinR

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  15. Mindfire

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    Nope. The show's creators confirmed that Stannis is indeed dead. They just didn't show him being decapitated because they thought it was "unnecessary" or "excessive" or something.
     
  16. SeverinR

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    Brienne's first duty was to protect her King, once dead, she must avenge his death. Sansa and Arya was a promise later to their mother, who happened to see Brie's first duty failure, her king slayed by a demon that looked like Stannis.

    I believe John coming back to life is a lot more likely then fry-baby Stannis is still alive. (His fire witch has the power of a sacrificed Baratheon to use on someone or something.) If you notice, all the official word is "John Snow is dead." I don't believe anyone doubts Snow is dead, having been stabbed by most of the Crows and left to bleed.
     
  17. SeverinR

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    [video=youtube_share;gywGBuMUiI4]https://youtu.be/gywGBuMUiI4[/video]
     
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