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Spoiler-Fest: Star Wars VII

Discussion in 'Film & Television' started by Legendary Sidekick, Dec 22, 2015.

  1. T.Allen.Smith

    T.Allen.Smith Staff Moderator

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    It's called a saber staff.
     
  2. Penpilot

    Penpilot Staff Article Team

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    For me, I prefer to look at things in a different way. I see all the flaws in the original trilogy, and yet I still love them. I've seen TFA twice, and I see the flaws in it. I'm not sure I love this movie yet, but I sure like it a lot.

    So for myself, I'd make the comparison of accepting the person you're with, flaws included, and loving them still. Their flaws may still annoy you, but they may be endearing too.

    But then again, there are some flaws that can not be worked passed. *cough* prequels *cough*
     
  3. ushKee

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    Anyone else think it was completely absurd when Leia and Rey hugged? If I recall right, Leia didn't even see Rey at all because she was captured the whole time. The only way they could have recognized each other was...through the force. So pretty huge evidence that Leia and Rey are somehow related in my opinion, perhaps through Luke.
     
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  4. Legendary Sidekick

    Legendary Sidekick The HAM'ster Moderator

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    Your reputation just went from 10 to 183 because you have a Darth Binxorz avatar.

    And... funny thing, I didn't even think of that. I guess I just assumed Liea is her aunt and knew who Rey was. I think your explanation of the force makes better sense of...

    ...darn, I looked at your avatar and got distracted. Now I lost my train of thought. Messa lost meesa's train of thought.
     
  5. Penpilot

    Penpilot Staff Article Team

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    Heyyyyy. You're right. I didn't even realize they hadn't met.

    Funny thing. The hug that I did have an issue with was between Poe and Fin. It didn't feel like their relationship had earned that.
     
  6. Tom

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    I don't know about that...Finn saved Poe's life, they escaped together, each thought the other died, and then were reunited. That's more than enough material for a relationship to develop on. Plus, going through intense, life-or-death situations has a way of bonding people much more quickly than normal.
     
  7. Penpilot

    Penpilot Staff Article Team

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    There's only one way to settle this, prequel staring contest. We watch the prequels, and the first one to rolls their eyes or groan loses. :p

    As for that Leia hug. On another board, we were discussing whether Rey was a Skywalker or not, and I had this thought.

    In the EU, which I'm not very versed in, Han and Leia have two children. Rey could be Kylo's sister.

    So maybe Rey was being trained as a Jedi before Kylo destroyed everything, so that would explain why she can wield the force like she can. And it would explain Kylo's struggle with the light. In a moment of "weakness" instead of killing Rey, his sister, he abandoned her on Jakkuu instead.

    Everyone, including Luke, assumed she's dead, so no search. And it would explain why Rey and Leia hug at the end. Hi Mom, I'm home.
     
  8. Devor

    Devor Fiery Keeper of the Hat Moderator

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    If she was Kylo's sister, and she recognized Leia, wouldn't she also have recognized Han Solo?

    Still, I hope they did have another child - I would like to see Jedi order begin to reform.
     
  9. Nimue

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    Me and my mom's theory is that Rey is the great-granddaughter of Obi-Wan Kenobi. Similar outfits, similar skills at sneaking around giant evil star-bases. Also, Obi-Wan's skill with the Jedi mind-trick, which Rey picks up immediately. Also, during her hallucination in the basement you hear a voice say "Rey" that sounds an awful lot like Alec Guiness. Eh? Eh? Her being a Skywalker would be the obvious choice, but it'd be cool to get other wizarding Jedi families into the mix. (In case it's not clear, I loved the movie.)
     
  10. Ireth

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    Fun fact: that IS Alec Guiness' voice. They recycled one of his lines from the original trilogy in which he says "afraid", and clipped it so it sounds like "Rey".
     
  11. Penpilot

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    Maybe, she didn't recognize Leia, Leia recognized her. Maybe she doesn't recognize Han is because she had some sore of traumatic memory block from being abandoned, or maybe it's a block implanted by Kylo using the dark side of the force. And it unlocks, or begins to unlock, when she touches Luke's lightsabre and accepts the Force as being a part of her.

    Two more years of wild speculation, this waiting is going to kill me.
     
  12. Legendary Sidekick

    Legendary Sidekick The HAM'ster Moderator

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    I just read that today, so I'm aboard the Kenobi train. It's hinted at, but not so obvious as a Luke or Leia reveal would be. (Not that obvious would disappoint, especially if I'm lured away from the obvious.)

    Looks like I'm aboard the speculation train too. Or hit by it. Nobody boards the speculation train on purpose!
     
  13. MineOwnKing

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    That's because the hug between Poe and Fin is an homage to the scene after Luke Skywalker blew up the Death Star. Luke jumps out of the xwing and hugs Han and Leia.

    This is what I meant in my original review about the constant homages, and the reason it felt like a remake. I could pick out many, many more.

    I thought the Jedi had to swear an oath of celibacy. All the rumors on the web about the new characters being descendants confuses me.
     
  14. Legendary Sidekick

    Legendary Sidekick The HAM'ster Moderator

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    Ahh... but did either of them call out the other actor's real name? That would've been a homage to Luke shouting "Carrie!"
     
  15. Penpilot

    Penpilot Staff Article Team

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    Does that still happen or did it get 'Special-ed' out? :p
     
  16. Legendary Sidekick

    Legendary Sidekick The HAM'ster Moderator

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    It was probably specialed, with a large CGI creature tromping in the foreground so you can't even lip read "Carrie."
     
  17. Penpilot

    Penpilot Staff Article Team

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    I just checked and you're right. And they modified the dialogue too.

    [​IMG]
     
  18. X Equestris

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    The old order did, though that was more about avoiding attachment than celibacy. There's implications that sex without attachment might have been permitted. Of course, that rule about attachment led directly to the downfall of the Jedi, by driving Anakin underground and ultimately into Palpatine's arms. It might be best to change the rule. And since Luke is the only fully trained Jedi left by the post-Ep. 6 time period, there really isn't anyone left to tell him he can't change the rule when he rebuilds the order.
     
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  20. Devor

    Devor Fiery Keeper of the Hat Moderator

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    I was wondering if Luke's students were "killed" in the same way that Darth Vader killed Luke's father. Who exactly are the Knights of Ren, anyways?

    Also . . . . more speculation. Does anyone else think that Captain Phasma is working for a third party? I think she let Fin escape and join the resistance, and fled the Death Star Supreme right after she lowered the shields hoping it would be destroyed. IMO, they should check Fin for implants.
     
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