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Spoiler-Fest: Star Wars VII

Discussion in 'Film & Television' started by Legendary Sidekick, Dec 22, 2015.

  1. Legendary Sidekick

    Legendary Sidekick The HAM'ster Moderator

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    If she removes her helmet, a part of me will root for her. (Same actress that plays Brienne in GoT is why.) Captain Phasma being more than just a villain would be cool, even if she's not exactly a hero either.
     
  2. Legendary Sidekick

    Legendary Sidekick The HAM'ster Moderator

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    Yes! I KNEW Harry Potter was a Jedi, and there's the proof.

    Or is it "hairy," referring to shirtless George Lucus in the foreground?

    (Disclaimer: no, that image does not resemble Lucas at all. For some reason, I pictured him saying in Lucas' voice: "Originally, Luke and Han locked arms and square danced for the duration of the credit roll...")
     
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  3. Penpilot

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    It's this Harry.

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    As for shirtless Lucas, this Star Wars cameo is probably the closes we're going to get.

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  4. Legendary Sidekick

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    Hey... that's a blue screen behind him. You know what that means? It means more should happen on the blue screen than in the actual scene where George Lucas is involved.

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  5. Penpilot

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    Hahahahhahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahha


    Any way. Has anyone seen the Star Wars bad lip reading? Like the trilogy, the best one seems to be Empire. :p

    "STAR WARS: A Bad Lip Reading" - YouTube
    "THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: A Bad Lip Reading" - YouTube
    "RETURN OF THE JEDI: A Bad Lip Reading" - YouTube
     
  6. Gryphos

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    Here's a great analysis/review of TFA that I've watched. It's a little bit long, but very interesting.

     
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    So, I found these today upon my return to Facebook... I've been LOL'ing for an hour!

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  9. X Equestris

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    John Boyega says that Episode 8 is going to be darker.

    [video=youtube_share;WqdhtZgac2o]http://youtu.be/WqdhtZgac2o[/video]
     
  10. Penpilot

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    Some more Star Wars funny.

     
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  11. ChasingSuns

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    So before I say what I have to say about the film, I must point out that I know that I'm part of a minority in this opinion. That being said, I gotta say...

    I thought the film was kinda weak. Rey and Finn seemed very flat, and I saw way too much recycled plot from Episode 4. I had a hard time getting around those. I actually thought that Kylo had the most substance out of the new characters by far. I also didn't care for the lack of presentation of the new political landscape. I mean, with the whole "blowing up the Republic" thing... I haven't seen these planets before, I don't know anything about them. Therefore, when I saw it happen, I just kinda went "meh". If they had blown up Coruscant... well, that would've evoked some emotion. That's a planet that I have seen before, that's a planet that I have made connections with. A system of completely unknown planets to me means nothing. Also, I had some serious problems with some of the dialogue. Also, some of the editing was kinda awkward in my opinion.

    I could go on, but I'll leave my rant at that.

    All of this being said, there were things that I liked about the film. As I said, I actually enjoyed Kylo Ren as a character. I also really liked that they gave Chewie a larger role (his bowcaster also got an awesome upgrade!). And the visual/practical effects were incredible. It was also pretty awesome seeing X-Wing/TIE Fighter dogfights so close to the surface of a planet. Also, props to JJ for keeping the lens flare at a minimum!

    Overall, I thought it was ok. Not great, but ok. I gave it a 2.5 out of 4 stars.
     
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  12. Logos&Eidos

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    Know that your not alone, it's good to anybody that isn't praising TFA as the best Star Wars film sense 83 which it clearly isn't.
     
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  13. JediKnightMuse

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    Disclaimer: I didn't go back and read through all of the posts in this thread, but I did read some of them and I'll be quoting/responding to some of them in this. In case it wasn't obvious by my username, I'm a huge Star Wars fan, so I'm definitely jumping in on this.

    I loved The Force Awakens. Yeah, they rehashed some of the same plots from A New Hope, and I really wish they had done something different besides a third Death Star...but I didn't mind that so much. And I mean, the thing is, they had to introduce these new characters somehow, so I'm not all that surprised that Rey, for example, has a very similar introduction to the way Luke was introduced. (And seriously, if she's not a Skywalker, I'll eat my metaphorical hat, because the signs are ALL THERE.)

    I feel like I'm one of the only people in the world who does not like Ben Solo/Kylo Ren. I think it's because right now he seems weak as a villain. He took his helmet off TWICE in front of an enemy- once in front of Rey and once in front of Han. He had a huge fit, which is very much a Skywalker trait so I'm not too surprised by that. He just...I don't know. He needs to prove himself to me.

    Also, as someone who grew up reading the EU that no longer exists as canon, I'm way too used to Ben Skywalker, Luke's son, not Ben Solo, so that name switch is really weird for me. (For non-EU readers, Ben was given that name after Obi-Wan, and I honestly don't feel that Leia and Han would have had the same connection and reasoning for choosing that name as Luke did.)

    Also, I saw someone say that Han and Leia had two kids in the EU- they actually have three. They have twins, Jaina and Jacen (so Ben Solo would be Jacen in this case) and a third kid, Anakin.


    I don't know if it's exactly an oath of celibacy offhand, but basically they're not supposed to form attachments, which isn't the same as celibacy. There were plenty of Jedi in the Old Republic who still married and had kids (or didn't get married but still ended up with kids). There was a sect of Jedi called the Corellian Jedi who not only allowed attachments but they kept their families together and they either trained their kids themselves or they let a family member or friend train them. (I was running a Star Wars role play set in the Old Republic up until early this year and we had Corellian Jedi as one of the sects.)

    I've never fully understood the whole "no attachments/you must be celibate," (if they do have to take an oath of celibacy) because if they have to be celibate...how exactly are they going to create further generations of Jedi without expecting to have a bunch of Force created Chosen Ones running around? It doesn't make sense- someone, somewhere, has to break the rules and have a kid in order to further their own family line as well as create another generation of Jedi.

    In the EU, Luke abolished the no attachments rule. He basically had no choice, because he was starting from scratch with the Jedi academy and had to find as many Force sensitives as possible to train, which included many who were already adults and "too old" to be trained. I think he would have had to do the same both in the case of the academy and even as far as, say, Leia having a kid. He wouldn't have told her "hey, you can't have kids because it's against the Jedi code," especially because she didn't train as a Jedi. In the EU she did eventually train as one, but she was way into adulthood at that point.

    However, having said what I did as for as the celibacy goes, I don't think that Rey is a descendant of Kenobi. (There was also a rumor that she was, like, Anakin reincarnated? That makes 0 sense and I hope that's not the case because that's super lame.) Yeah, they dress similarly and have somewhat similar accents, but...that doesn't make her a Kenobi by default. Obi-Wan was a stickler for the rules. He even berated Qui-Gon because he was willing to go against the Council's orders in order to train Anakin in Phantom Menace. He wasn't going to be a hypocrite and go against the code and end up with a kid. It just doesn't follow his personality and the way he was set up in the movies. Some people were trying to say that she's his daughter but that makes 0 sense because he wasn't even alive when Rey was born, and even if he had been, he'd have been an old(er) man.

    Also, it was actually Ewan McGregor who did the voice of Obi-Wan in the flashback that Rey sees when she touches the lightsaber. There was an interview several months back with him about he got called up to go and record it, and then he was asked about whether or not an Obi-Wan spinoff is a possibility. (I REALLY hope so because I REALLY want to see him play Obi-Wan again.)

    I DO think that Rey is a Skywalker. There are SO MANY SIGNS, it's ridiculous. What sealed the deal for me was the scene in the forest when she calls the lightsaber to her and it GOES PAST KYLO and RIGHT INTO HER HAND which was basically a smack over the head saying "HEY, THIS IS TOTALLY A PARALLEL OF THE SCENE IN EMPIRE WHEN LUKE IS CAPTURED BY THE ICE MONSTER," and she got the Skywalker theme (the slow version of the Star Wars main theme).

    I also think that the look that Luke was giving her at the end was one of sadness, because of Han, but also because he knew what Rey had been through, but also a bit of fatherly pride. Like "hey, daughter, you're finally about to begin the path to your destiny. Welcome."

    As far as Leia hugging Rey and Rey not recognizing her, I think deep down Rey at least recognized her to a small degree and that Leia knew who Rey is, which would be her niece, but it wasn't her place to tell her and that's why she was the one who was sent to find Luke. I really don't think she's a Solo, because there's no way Han and Leia would go throughout the entire movie only talking about a son but never mention a daughter, and surely Han would have been like "hey, by the way, you're my kid!" He wouldn't have been like "hey, you're my niece," because it wasn't his place and he might not have even known. I think Luke was maybe with someone (maybe the new female character in Rogue One? I could get behind that idea) and they had Rey, and then the stuff with the academy/Kylo happened and her mother was forced to bring her to Jakku to keep her safe. I don't think Luke would have let her be brought to a place like Jakku of all places willingly, especially since he grew up much the same way and wouldn't have wanted that for his kid. I think he would have had to go into hiding before he could do anything to help Rey. I don't think he thought she was dead like some people, because he likely would have sensed that (unless, I suppose, someone used the Force to make it so that she couldn't be sensed by anyone).

    I'm going to stop here for now.

    Who else is excited for Rogue One? I saw the teaser trailer released not that long ago and it looks awesome. Super excited about it. Apparently there's a full trailer that's supposed to be released during the Olympics tonight? A friend of mine just told me that.
     
  14. FifthView

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    This guy, apparently:

     
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  15. JediKnightMuse

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    Ahahahaha, that was amazing. :D
     
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  16. FifthView

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    I laughed so hard when I watched that.
     
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